Operation Delta 3 - 012

Good Morning All, We now start a new section as 011 was getting to long. We are waiting until Oct 26 to come, actually the evening thereof., to start building BT, the third in a series of Delta computers.

We have been filling in with warious subjects and projects. See the last section 011. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/For.../005580-3.html

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[This message has been edited by Murf (edited 10-17-2001).]

"warious"?? Are you Russian perchance, or just watching Chekov on too many Star trek episodes?

be wary wary careful....posting too much on VDR has a tendancy to turn you in to Elmer J Fudd Millionaire, I own a mansion and a yacht

I make a simple mistake and you two have to let the whole world know. May the bird of paradise ........ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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Warp 7 Mr. Zulu!

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But Kiptin, the wessel's helm is wery, wery sluggish! Nothink's vorking! It must be the dyloothioom....drilivtium....er...dose krystals we run de sheep on!"

Yep,,gotta' keep da sheep healthy...Gets awful lonely out here in deep space... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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I just knew someone would pick up on that as soon as I hit the "Submit reply" button... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Anyway, speaking of computers.... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ (Meanwhile Murf, having taken two Valiums, poises his finger over the Lock button....)

what is it with the farm animals lately?

Getting back to nature in deep space. I mean it is all there to read Sarkazztic. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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"Jim, from a purely logical point of view, I'd say those people are...I think the correct term would be loonies..." https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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Almost forgot, QoH, are you going to send me a couple of etchings in stained glass that would represent Bistro and Train for BT? https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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I for one would like to know how her stained glass PC window project is going. I wouldn't mind one that looks like the window at Notre Dame Cathedral. (Now watch...she'll make one with the Hunchback in the middle of it...).

Bistro shall be depicted as a Golden Question Mark with cherubs strumming harps all around it.

I would have thought bistro would be depicted by something that one of those large farm animals left behind.

Well, from the pics of bistro I have to go on...The "stadium view" and the "pink specks with green eyes"....

I am having difficulties, even drawing from the left.

"left behind"... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
Right, too.

Nice to see ya Qoh I just dug these up again since we started talking about stained glass windows
QoH go to entry 275

Thanks sarrkazztic. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

I'm so anxious about goose building. I have to keep sneaking in here to make sure he's not jumping ahead of schedule. Don't wanna miss this.

I am not certain if the term ahead of schedule is in the Goose's vocabulary. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

sarrkazztic
Behind Times is https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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I for one would like to know how her stained glass PC window project is going. I wouldn't mind one that looks like the window at Notre Dame Cathedral.

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Hey that reminds me. I read this halarious article titled "Faith at the speed of light" in Time Magizine. Wait, where is it...

AH, here it is.
TIME: June 14, 1999 (Old isn't it)
P 252: Essay-Garrison Keillor

Maybe you could find it at your library or something. Really funny, if you have the time to read it.

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Imagine. I named myself after an outdated programming language.

My psychology: If your computer is faster than mine (PI 75 Mhz, 24MB RAM), you have ABSOLUTELY no right to complain.

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If you overlook the questionable humor there is alot of info in these threads thanks to the gnomes of knowledge that have helped the QoH and I

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Yep I been reading the original Delta thread...I am at delta 23 and I found this and it amused me somewhat so I brought it over here gnomes of knowledge that is too funny

while reading the original deltas I am seeing references to 3dmark Scores of 3000 or higher even a couple 5000+ scores by bistro and QoH I tested mine last night Savage 4 32mb agp card and it was only 1500....are there any tweaks I can make to get this higher or do I need to turn loose of the cash and get a better video card....If I need to upgrade I want something that has rca tv out so that when I watch a dvd I can send it to the television....do they make video cards that you could have dvd output to the tv and regular computer function on the monitor?

Geez, we going to have 9 more days of this stuff....Let's get it on build the BT... We are all anxious.....Hope Admin doesn't think this is OT and close it.....Throw in a post about the build to keep it legal until the 26th...



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But if it ain't broke - "Break It" - So we can help fix it!

Hey, Murf....didn't I read somewhere way back when that you were also considering a new build (see...I got the word "build" in there...slick, huh?)? Seriously, wuz dat u?

I see that goose started this current mission on 8/21/01 here and we (he) will get started on this on 10/26/01 I leave for vacation on 11/1 but Goose should have a rock solid machine before I leave...will be gone for 10 days elk hunting...maybe I wont need all 10 days and be able to sneak back early to see how everyone is doing

sarrkazztic
I believe we discussed in there what we turned off in the bios. Just sec.
Sent them instead of posting them.
Now those are in reference to the Hercules 3D Prophet II MX card. See what you can do.

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very dissapointed right now....just started reading delta 26 and bistro had promised pictures of his modded case and a picture of himeself...zing.com is no longer available...and I was so looking forward to them.......as I was reading I am having the sudden urge to add a fan bus and a cpu temp monitor....any suggestions...would like to put both in my unused 5 1/4 drive bay.I need to control 5 fans now and maybe a few more later. and would like to tame that mess of wires a little...

Bistro

I want the Delta Gang to build a LAPTOP...hehe, then give it to poor old me...

Actually I have built about a dozen systems, including the one I'm trying to type on now.....

And yes Build will kep SRJ off of my back......and Yes, I'm looking at replacing this MOBO and Processor only,

Damn, probably spent $2K last two years upgrading, upgrading, upgrading, upgrading, still have the original Tower Case, but everything inside probably been replace 1/2 dz times.......

sarrkazztic

Vacation...........You will have to take a Laptop with you, computer withdrawal will keep you up all night and the Bears will get ya....



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"Sheep"? "Large farm animals left behinds"? From now on perhaps I should view posts here about "ports" or "slots" a different way. Oh my!

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sarrkazztic: Yep. Zing went under, but I downloaded all the pics beforehand. I loaded them up onto Boomspeed, but last week I got a warning that they are now going over to a new policy that the pics can only be used for "auctions"---can't win for losing here. If I can find a good (that means "free") photo storage site that will let me link, then I'll post the photos for you. 8x10 glossies will cost ya'.... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ They're nothing spectacular; just to give Q_o_H and GG1 an idea or two for future modding projects, etc. So don't hold your breath. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

Good Morning All, My my, getting restless are we? Okay, I was going to wait until tomorrow to start prebuild, but today is good enough. (I really don't like to get ahead of schedule. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ )

I. Does anybody have a prebuild checklist for building a computer? Something anyone could save that is contemplating a build. If not lets make one.

I have noticed there has been more interest in building since we started these threads last October. The challenge here is to give all new builders the information necessary to successfully build a computer and have it come up without a major problem.

And so, ye of little faith, the prebuild segment of BT starts.

2. Since noone has sent me a digital camera, I will take pictures of the build, and post them after BT is built. These pictures will be taken, I hope, in such a way as to help people who use them.

3. As has been said, the actual buiding will begin on Fri. Oct 26 at 7:00pm (Write that down QoH https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ )

4. Please let me know if there is anything that you can think of that we have left out.
The goal is to have a build from start to finish that any can follow easily and not feel intiminated about or that they can't do it.

5. The K.I.S.S principle is now in effect until BT is built.

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[This message has been edited by greengoose1 (edited 10-18-2001).]

This article, while a bit dated, is a good basic tutorial on building a system---with photos (already colored in, sorry...). Can be used as a guideline, but it is still very important to know all the specific parts you have and how they integrate with each other BEFORE building. Basic card placement: Vid AGP to AGP slot (duh), sound card best in PCI slot #2, skip a slot from there and put the modem there. Keeping the cards separate helps to cut down on any interference. Most vid cards today come with a chip cooling fan anyway; making it necessary to skip a PCI slot between it and a third card. Stays cooler that way anyway. Plan ahead--gonna put a controller card, NIC card, sound, modem, and vid? It's gonna get crowded in there and possibly present some temperature problems. Try to get a mobo that supports up to 8, rather than 4, IDE devices (2x IDE, 2x ATA) so you can possibly eliminate the need for a controller card. Helpful Tip of The Day... https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

I've got 5 PCI slots and the Maxtor Ultra ATA 100 PCI card.



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here's the deal if I understand you correctly. On that new mobo, you won't need that controller card--for the hard drives anyway. BUT, if you used maxblast or formatted them "weird" because your BIOS in the current machine couldn't handle over 32, then it may be necessary to reformat, once hooked up to the new mobo; if you want full capacity/features.

Does that not increase my capability though?

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GG1
Look at the manual and you will find the smaller ribbon connector is for the floppy.
The next one in is where I would hook a cdrw, set as master on its own ribbon.
The primary IDE channel is the third on in. Put cdrom here and set it for Master also.
The Primary Ultra ATA100 IDE is where I hooked my bootable harddrive. Set it for Master.
the Secondary Ultra ATA100 IDE is where I have connected my second HDD. It is master also.
Also, after everything is installed, let me know if you computer is slower than all get out after it starts booting window and bios Rev number. I can get the speed up download site to you. Worked wonders for me. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

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Thanks for the info train. Good to know.

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Oh don't throw away the card by all means. Where it could come in handy is if you have say 5 devices. 2 CDs, 2 HD's and perhaps a Zip (or some other device). Instead of slaving the CDs and HDs, you can put each device on it's own channel (mobo w/ 2x IDE, 2x ATA connectors) and the "peripheral" device such as the Zip on the card. Better than slaving (two devices sharing one channel). What I am saying is, the card (for that mobo config) isn't absolutely necessary to make the system run. IMHO I'd rather have the hard drives on the ATA- capable mobo rather than a card.

Now let's not rush in to this pre-building phase GG1. Perhaps a pre pre-bulding step should come first. Maybe a planning to pre-build step. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/ Couldn't resist.

Perhaps you chucked it away, so I'll post it again. It might be worthwhile scanning some of the stuff here over the next week, and downloading stuff where appropriate.

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[This message has been edited by DrMDJ (edited 10-19-2001).]

Thanks people.

DrMDJ, Was that an understatement or lousy humor. ROFLOL. Will review that tonight. https://discussions.virtualdr.com/

No reason not to review previous posts and repost which might help someone new that hasn't reviwed it as Sarkazztic is doing.

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