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Hi all,
I replaced a dead battery on a mates PC and now it wont boot up to desk top all that comes up is "none system disk or disk error, Replace and press any key when ready" he dosnt know what OS is using and neither do I. I posted a Note on here before and a reply came to replace the battery and run the BIOS to autodetect if memory serves me correct but theres no auto detect or default settings at all, The PC has got to be at least 10year old. The BIOS is ver 1.05.
Thanks in Advance
Sun
When the battery was replaced, the CMOS/BIOS settings for the hard drive were probably reset to "<none>". The only way to get the system to recognize the hard drive once again is to reset the CMOS/BIOS hard drive settings.
To do this will require two things:[list=1]
[*]Access the CMOS/BIOS Setup
When the system is first powered up you usually see a brief message on-screen that let's you know what key(s) are required to get into the CMOS/BIOS Setup. For example:
http://www.comp-air.com/vfrazee/nowo...es/amiboot.gif
If there is no indication of what to do to get in, let us know what brand BIOS (or computer) and we'll see if we can help you figure it out. (Note: Some older computers required a Setup Diskette to access the CMOS/BIOS Setup).
[*]The correct parameters for the hard drive.
To help you figure out exactly what these parameters might be we'll need the brand and model number off of the hard drive. Once you have the correct parameters in hand you'll probably need to select hard drive type "46" (or "47", or "user") and manually enter the number of heads, cylinders, write precomp etc. For example:
http://www.comp-air.com/vfrazee/nowo...es/amibchs.gif[/list=a]That's it. After you save your changes and exit Setup the system should be able to recognize and boot from the hard drive.
[This message has been edited by Vernon Frazee (edited 03-26-2002).]
Hi Vernon
Thanks for reply the BIOS is "AST BRAVO LC Ver 1.05" I can get into the BIOS settings. Have adjusted the hard drive disk adaptor and first hard drive disk type but nothing works at all..
You say i may need the brand and model of the hard drive will have to get that but wont be until tommorow now.. I havent got any disks with the PC or anything so i may need some help to download these from the Net somewhere.
Cheers for the help and i will get the model number and make of the hard drive and will post this info tommorow..
Sun.
While you're looking up the model number for that drive, look for a label indicating the number of Heads, Cylinders, and Sectors per Track. Also, you might be shown a value for Precomp and Lzone.
Those are the numbers you would plug in to the fields requested in the BIOS setup regarding the Type 46 (or 47) hard drive.
When Precomp isn't specified on the drive, 0 usually works just fine.
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Hi,
I have had a look at the H/d and as far as i can make out the company is Conner and the only numbers which are listed is :
cp30104h
got03
9312
bpb4315
3gt2.77 ML2 U
And thats it, there no labels nothing whatsoever to indicate the number of heads cylinders sectors nothing whatsoever..
I know its a really old cpu but i want to sort it out..
Sun.
Capacity: 121.7 MB
Speed: 3400rpm
Seek time: 19ms
Cylinders: 762
Heads: 8
Sectors: 39
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/ata/cp30104h.html
What an antique!
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Am386DX-40 + Cx387DX-40
32MB, 128KB cache
(2) 540MB HD's
8x CD
2MB Video
SB16 PnP
DR-DOS 7.04
Win3.11 w/ Win32s
--
Just because it's unusual doesn't make it a virus!
Ping is NOT an acronym!
Hi,
I know its an antique, was thinking of taking it out and replacing it so i can preserve it or even sell it at a profit??? Any offers...
But what do I do next to make this PC work??
Cheers
Sun...
> I know its an antique, was thinking of taking it out and replacing it so i can preserve it or even sell it at a profit??? Any offers...
No, but thanks. Literally have boxes full of old hard drives, (and controllers, motherboards, cables, various I/O cards, modems, systems ... ...) https://discussions.virtualdr.com/
> But what do I do next to make this PC work??
[list=1][*]Get into the system's CMOS/BIOS Setup|Hard Drive Setup Screen (see image above for an example).
[*]Under "Type" select "user" (or "46" or "47", depends on the BIOS).
[*]Type in the number of Cylinders ("762"), the number of Heads ("8"), Write Precomp (I'd try "65536" first), then the number of Sectors ("39").
[*]Save your settings and exit.[/list=a]With any luck the system should boot from the hard drive.
its good to have an old 486 around that can auto detect a drive so you can put it in other computer after getiing numbers
Hello,
Sorry its took so long to reply just had a few personel probs..
Right i entered the required figures into the BIOS but on boot up says non system disk or disk error???
Any other ideas?
Sun.........
Hi Paul,
Ok that's good.
The Hard drive is just not bootable.
To make it bootable..
Now you just need a boot disk for the OS your installing.
Then from the A:>\ type: sys c: the press enter.
Then reboot, the hard drive now has the system files to make it bootable.
Others will have more ideas.
Good luck,
Dave
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Hi there,
Its a friends CPU he dosnt know what OS system he using and neither do i?? No back up disks nothing...
I posted it here as its a old PC very old and more then poss using pre WIN95 O/s...
Sun.
Here are the basic steps for setting up a hard drive:[list=1][*]Jumper the hard drive.
Most hard drives have jumper settings for the following: Master with no Slave, Master with Slave, or Slave.
(If you're not going to have another hard drive on the same ribbon cable, jumper it as Master with no Slave).
[*]Hook up the hard drive. (i.e., Ribbon cable and Power lead).
[*]Power up the system, go into the CMOS/BIOS Setup and set the hard drive parameters. (i.e., number of heads, cylinders etc. See above message(s)).
[*]Boot the system with a System Diskette in drive A:. This System Diskette will need both the FDISK.EXE and FORMAT.EXE utility programs on it.
(If you don't have a System Diskette you can download a program that will create one for you from bootdisk.com).
[*]Use FDISK to create one or more partitions. You can start the FDISK program by typing:
fdisk
at the A:\> DOS prompt.
Important: While you're in FDISK make sure you set the first partition as "A"ctive.
[*]Reboot from the System Diskette and use the following command to format the first partition:
format c: /s
(The /s parameter adds the System files to drive (partition) C: when the FORMAT is complete).
If you have more than one partition, format all other partitions with the following command:
format x:
(where x: is the drive letter of each partition; "d:", "e:", "f:", etc.).
[*]Remove the System Diskette from drive A: and boot from the hard drive.[/list=a]That's it. You're now ready to install your MS-DOS and then Windows 3.1x.
I would start by booting from a floppy boot disk. Then type
dir c:\*.*
This will tell you if you can read the hard drive and if there are any files on it. If it has files, checking the file dates will tell you what operating system the computer already has. You can, of course, put a different operating system on it you want.
Next you might try copying a file from the A drive to the C drive to make sure the drive is working properly.
If all that works, then you might format and partition the drive if you want. If the drive can't be read, then partitioning and formatting may get it working.
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The error may be because there was a non-bootable diskette left in the floppy drive. The computer searches for a bootable disk in the floppy drive first, usually. If a non-system diskette is in the drive, the error message or a similar one can be the result.