Question for ya JP... What is the current value we're using here for the board "time-out for cookie" setting? And, has this changed from what it (or the equivalent) was under teh old board software?
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Question for ya JP... What is the current value we're using here for the board "time-out for cookie" setting? And, has this changed from what it (or the equivalent) was under teh old board software?
There isn't any time out, as far as I know. The board never logs me out until I log out manually. It'll keep me logged in for weeks. You're getting sessions interrupted?
I think I misunderstood you. Are you referring to the time before posts/threads are marked read?
My quesion relates to just an idle curiosity of mine, not a problem.
Since upgading to the new board (starting pretty much immediately) there has clearly been a rise in the number of online users (members + guests), and at most times of the day. That there would be a rise doesn't surprise me necessarily. But the magnitude of the rise just seems way to high (its like doubled or better). As a result I have been wondering if there was something that changed with the advent of the new board vs the old. I'm not implying a bug, just either some setting value change or change in the way the statistics/data are gathered/measured under the new board. To this end, it is/was my understanding (and it may be wrong) that one of the board options that could effect (among other things) the count of online users was one called "Time-Out for Cookie", that sufficiently high values for this setting could inflate the statistics. So, I was just trying to find out what our current value was, as well as what it (or a like setting) was before the board change.
Yeah, I've noticed that too, we all have. I assume bots account for some portion, since this version is far more spider friendly. But I've just reduced the timeout by a huge margin, so that should speed threads being marked read, as well as the lingering of who's online, when they no longer are. I don't know what the old board setting was.
How about if I just close my browser and shutdown my PC ?
As far as VDr is concerned I'm still logged in.
How does it know to kill my session ?
Every forum (and other sites as well) use what's called a session cookie. The "session object" is defined as how long the browser is open to a page. The server reads the cookie at set intervals. When it no longer can, it knows you've left the page, hence, session ended. The setting Doc refers to determines how long after that your status on the board would change.
Exactly JP (the session cookie stuff).
It is indeed odd. Like I say, I don't think it is any sort of bug, just something different. Ya just can't help but conclude though that the rise in the numbers was/is just too high, too fast. And based on this it seems logical that it comes down to something being counted/measured (generically speaking) differently than before.
Prior to the upgrade in some of the discussions in that feedback thread I started we talked about us vs other boards in terms of online users. One of the things that to me stuck out at the time (though wasn't really delved in to) was that often the number of "guests" showing up was quite high on these boards, often VERY high. At the time these boards were running the newer software relative to us. Now we are running a comparable version of vbulletin. And, now all of a sudden our online (particularly ""guest") numbers have jumped. Certainly makes one wonder if there is a connection.
Personally, I just think something is resulting (again, not meaning a bug) in connections to be hung on to or perceived as open longer now, and thus getting reflected back as higher online activity.
Well how long for what I'm talking about ?
Edit: Just read DrMDJ's post and am now :confused: - are we talking about the same thing ?
Well I've just done some investigating and it appears the default setting for cookei timeout in the old version is the same.
Actually Nix. What we really need to know to be able to compare apples to apples in looking at things is the relative "now vs before" information.
How long for the change in status to show? 900 seconds, currently. That's the default for the old and new versions, so I decided to leave it.
Well, if the cookie setting is the same then obviously that ain't it. But it just seems something has to account for this (and it would be an unrealistic stretch to attribute this to any of the search engine stuff). It would be interesting to know.
Well I checked some of our boards that haven't been upgraded yet, and they show 900 seconds too, but I can't state with certainty that this board was previously set to the default, in the older version. I never had occasion to check.
Well in the VDr is a little sick thread on around 22nd March I posted that there were 74,275 members and there are now 74,739 in fact I'm sure there's been an increase of about 60 or so in the last day.
That seems like alot