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    Next best thing to building your own...

    My old pc was a PIII 550 with 384MB of SDRAM. I really wanted to build my own PC, but I had a limited budget. I found a Gateway 614-GE system for a reasonable price. I know that Gateway is less proprietary than other manufacturers, plus the system had a lot of good parts in it. I decided just to upgrade various parts as I got the money. That way, I could al least get some satisfaction in transforming this machine from a mid-tier performer to a real powerhouse. Here's a history of all of the upgrades I put into it:

    OS: PC came with XP Home. I formatted and did a clean install of XP
    Pro. This also got rid of the "no thank you programs" (including Norton, which I hate), and allowed me to put my own image on the computer.

    Video: The PC came with integrated s3 Uni Chrome II graphics, which totally blew at playing any games. I upgraded to a eVGA GeForce MX4000 64MB, which was a little better, but still flakey. After I got a little more money, I put in a BFG GeForce MX4000 with 128MB. This was much better with games, but still fell a little short. Recently, I got more money, and upgraged again to a BFG GeForce FX5500 256MB card. This handles my games much better than the other cards did.

    Sound: PC came with integrated AC'97 audio. I found the Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit to be a good basic upgrade for the price. I also upgraded the factory speakers from a basic 2 sattelite speaker setup to a Creative 2.1 setup. The subwoofer really adds a kick to playing my mp3's!

    HDD: PC came with a 200GB Seagate ATA-100 Drive. I do a lot of downloading, so I added an additional 160GB Seagate ATA-100 drive for storage purposes.

    RAM: PC came with 512MB of PC3200 (Samsung). I got a good deal on a PNY 512MB stick, and added it to get a full GB. I notice a big differance now when playing games.

    Network: PC came with a 56k dialup modem. I replaced this with a Belkin 802.11g wireless card, and adapted my other computers the samw way, so I now have a high-speed wireless network!

    Input: PC came with a standard PS/2 keyboard/mouse setup. I upgraded to a USB optical mouse, and an illuminated slim-line USB Keyboard.

    I'm going to continue to upgrade until the time comes to build a whole new system. Any ideas as to what to upgrade next? I was thinking of getting a Sound Blaster Audigy Value card and a 5.1 speaker setup.
    My Network:
    -Workstation1: AMD64 3400+; 1gb RAM; 360GB Hdd space; GeForce FX5500; SB Live! 24-bit audio;WinXP Pro SP2
    -Workstation2: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 36 & 9gb Ultra 160 HDD's; Matrox G400 Dual Head; Yamaha DS1 audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Workstation3: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 80GB HDD; GeForce MX4000; SB Live! Basic audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Laptop: Pentium M 1.66GHz; 512MB RAM; 27GB HDD;
    Win XP Pro SP2

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    I prefer Turtle Beach products over the one you list. Not as much sqealing that most folks can not hear. Sound much better too. Plus I find Turtle Bach to be easier on resources and have less conflicts with the OS than Sound Blaster.

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    Thanks for the input, Train, but I'd rather stick with the Sound Blaster cards. What benifits would the Sound Blaster Audigy Value card have over my Sound Blaster Live! 24-bit card?
    My Network:
    -Workstation1: AMD64 3400+; 1gb RAM; 360GB Hdd space; GeForce FX5500; SB Live! 24-bit audio;WinXP Pro SP2
    -Workstation2: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 36 & 9gb Ultra 160 HDD's; Matrox G400 Dual Head; Yamaha DS1 audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Workstation3: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 80GB HDD; GeForce MX4000; SB Live! Basic audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Laptop: Pentium M 1.66GHz; 512MB RAM; 27GB HDD;
    Win XP Pro SP2

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    Best I can do is suggest you check out the sound blaster links as depicted at http://www.creative.com/products/welcome.asp?category=1
    to see what they have to say.

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    The Audigy Value looks like a good possibility for a future upgrade. It's not too expensive, and it does boast some features that my current card lacks. I was also thinking of buying a new case/psu/fan setup. My current setup is running a bit warm, and I would like to take the temps down a little. Mt current Gateway case only offers one fan aside from the CPU fan. According to everest, the temps are a little high, but not in the danger zone. I also figure that a PSU with a little more wattage would help with future upgrades. I currently have a 300w Bestec, but would like to get a 500+w PSU by a more reputable brand such as Antec or Enermax.
    My Network:
    -Workstation1: AMD64 3400+; 1gb RAM; 360GB Hdd space; GeForce FX5500; SB Live! 24-bit audio;WinXP Pro SP2
    -Workstation2: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 36 & 9gb Ultra 160 HDD's; Matrox G400 Dual Head; Yamaha DS1 audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Workstation3: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 80GB HDD; GeForce MX4000; SB Live! Basic audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Laptop: Pentium M 1.66GHz; 512MB RAM; 27GB HDD;
    Win XP Pro SP2

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    If I may make a recommendation on a new case, that is to make sure that 120mm fans can be used in it. They are much quieter by far.

    My 120s are running around 1300-1400 rpm and the 80's were running wide open. Thusly the 80,s were noisy.

    Nice temp drop too. 6C.

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    I realise that there's quite a difference in price, but if you can possibly run to it then go for the SoundBlaster X-Fi. It's moved sound cards into another league.

    http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Su...SubCategory=57
    Nick.

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    Price is a problem, though. I'm in between jobs right now, and money's tight. I think I'm going to try to get a Creative 5.1 speaker system before I get the new sound card.
    My Network:
    -Workstation1: AMD64 3400+; 1gb RAM; 360GB Hdd space; GeForce FX5500; SB Live! 24-bit audio;WinXP Pro SP2
    -Workstation2: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 36 & 9gb Ultra 160 HDD's; Matrox G400 Dual Head; Yamaha DS1 audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Workstation3: PentiumIII 800 Coppermine; 384MB RAM; 80GB HDD; GeForce MX4000; SB Live! Basic audio; Win2k Pro SP4
    -Laptop: Pentium M 1.66GHz; 512MB RAM; 27GB HDD;
    Win XP Pro SP2

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