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Old November 3rd, 2009, 03:08 PM
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Slow Start up and Defrag

There is something wrong with my (Gateway laptop with Windows XP). Since last night, it has been extremely slow to start up. It takes over forty minutes to be read to use. I tried to defrag my computer, but it stops between 27%-29%.

I have both Firefox and Internet Explorer.

I have been trying to see what the hell is going on with my laptop.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 03:23 PM
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Did you scan for viruses and spyware?

What defragger are you using? Don't bother with the stock XP defrag. Defraggler is better.
http://www.defraggler.com/

You also need some free space on your drive in order to defrag efficiently.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 07:26 PM
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bdsr80
--This was written a long time ago, so forgive duplications of suggestions already made.
(And note that Defragging is one of the least important things that can be done. Use the Analyze button as noted below.)

1) Have you scanned the PC for viruses, spyware, etc.? (Be sure to use programs with updated reference definition files.) Delete whatever these programs recommend. And if you did find such malware, you should also probably install and run HiJackThis. It may find bits and pieces which were left behind
http://www.download.com/Trend-Micro-...-10227353.html
2) Disk Cleanup. There are several ways to reach it. One is Start|All Programs|Accessories|System Tools|DiskCleanUp. That will start a scan of the PC to tell you what files might be deleted or compressed. (The scan takes a while.) I would certainly delete Temporary Internet Files, Temp files, Downloaded Program Files and probably Compress Old Files. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312 for details.
3) Then I would run ErrorChecking. (left click on MyComputer||right click on C:\ drive icon (assuming that is your hard drive)|Tools|Error Checking. Check the box "Automatically fix file system errors". Click Start (within the error checking window). You will be told to reboot. Do so. Error checking will then run as part of the reboot. It can take a while.
4) Start|Run|type MSCONFIG|OK|Startup tab. WinXP actually needs very few thirdparty programs (the ones you see in msconfig) to run at start. Antivirus, Firewall, Antispyware, programs associated with wireless connections such as mouse, network, etc. would be among the few. Uncheck the box to the left of any program you feel you do not need at startup. Click Apply. This site will help you make decisions what you do and do not need http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
5) Run Disk Defragmenter. ((left click on MyComputer||right click on C:\ drive icon (again assuming that is your hard drive)|Tools|Disk Defragmenter|Defrag Now click Analyze) Unless the analysis shows defragmentation is not needed, proceed to run Defragment. That also takes a while.

6) Disabling Services. This could be dangerous unless you know what you are doing. The main reason is that some Services depend on others, and some others may depend on it. Unless you have studied these dependencies, you may delete something needed to run what would seem to be unrelated. (You can check Dependencies by right clicking on the name of a Service|Properties|Dependency tab.) See this reference
http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm
The Elder Greek used to be very aggressive about disabling services, but you can see from the paragraph in red at the top, he has changed his mind now.

There are many other programs that start at boot, and more info can be provided whether they should or should not be allowed to start. But the ones that usually cause problems have been covered above.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 12:04 PM
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I did run my anti-malware and spyware programs. It tooks five hours, but it did find some adware. I did delete that. I went to defrag. That took overnight. In the morning, it couldn't defrag the whole computer.

I will try to other solutions you have.



P.S. I know this is unrelated, but my Internet browser keeps disappearing. At first, I thought it crashed, but when I minimize another program running it pops back up. What's up with that?
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Old November 4th, 2009, 12:08 PM
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It is time to go this route.
Follow all the instructions here.
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/sho...d.php?t=197917

And post your logs at
http://discussions.virtualdr.com/for...?s=&forumid=71
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Old November 5th, 2009, 07:26 PM
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Hi bdsr80,

IOBIT have a great Free program called advanced system care which covers alot of aspects in cleaning your pc including DEFRAG, junk files,bad registry items etc. plus it places a system restore point on your pc before running, maybe worth a try and see what it comes up with.

Google-IOBIT advanced systemcare

Regards

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Old November 6th, 2009, 11:14 AM
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I found the source of the problem. It was the driver. It was on IDO instead of DMA. Everything is working great now. Thank you.
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