Space Aliens?

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So, what do you all think? Do they exist? Have we been visited by them? Have you ever seen a UFO?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-60-years.html

I believe life exists elsewhere but I don't believe we've been visited by extraterrestrials.

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They HAD to come here. It's the only explanation for Citroëns and Studebakers.

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Stew dee baker - A baker who partook of the spirits to much

Like to have a Golden Hawk.

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Exist?!? I think I've been working with one for the last 20 years

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I think you need another option.
"I don't believe they exist at all."......period.

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OK I added that one. Should I change your vote from couldn't care lesss to that one? LOL

anyone else want to change their vote??

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The Nazca Lines, as a example, have me curious.

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Nazca, the Pyramids/sphynx, Aztec pyramids, Stonehenge are all wonderous and awe inspiring but to suggest things like that are the work of, assisted or inspired by aliens always unfairly underestimates the genious, resourcefulness and dedication of our human ancestors.

It's often been a common fallacy to think that just because modern man is so much more technologically advanced that past civilizations were incapable of amazing architectural, artistic and intellectual feats and simple hard work.

All this is compounded by cash grabbing hucksters like Von Daniken, Art Bell, Richard Hoagland etc who play on our false sense of superiority and their own snake oil to sell us or hype their tales and hoaxes.

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Why I sAID "have me curious"!

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I know, I wasn't being critical of you I was just trying to start a discussion

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Why I like the movie Chariots of the Gods. If I remember the name correctly, when I seen it on TV.

That point of yours was brought out many a time during the movie.

Are we tied to time to closely because of our short lives instead of thinking in eons. Ancient middle east history study being done is turning some interesting facts about inventions that were rediscovered centuries later elsewhere in the world.

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There must be some extraterrestrial connection to the mysterious, awe-inspiring creations such as that in the link below. These weren't intended just for human observation.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3...7161256wm8.jpg

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Kang and Kodos obviously

http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/wp...kang-kodos.jpg

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Should I change your vote from couldn't care lesss to that one? LOL

Yep . I don't believe and enjoy arguing against them

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Changed as req... but if you enjoy arguing about it then shouldn't you have checked the "interested in" vote ?

I used to very actively participate in a couple of online ufo discussion forums. Back in the late 90's. I was a serious debunker. My favorite topic back then was the cretin/hoaxer/fool named Jonathan Reed who claimed an alien killed his dog while on a hike then he kidnapped it and kept it alive in a freezer in his garage. Way too long to get into details but the story had sooo many holes in it, as if that's a surprise, that a 12 year old could have run rings around his twisted logic. It was an Art Bell exclusive at the time.

Another was a fairly popular online site that had various alleged pics and stories of ufo's. One in particular, I quickly realized, was very obviously a blurry B&W picture of Jupiter. I wrote the sites author to point this out and even sent him the original pic and within 24 hours it was replaced by a blurry pic of a light bulb.

after a couple of years I got tired of arguing with either those that truly believed but were blind to facts or those that maliciously tried to deceive for profit or fame. I left it all behind me despite having made some interesting aquaintances like Seth Shostak of SETI fame, a like-minded prof at Purdue and a couple of others in the ufo field.

I rarely think much about it nowadays except when I read an article like the link above.

If anyone's interested in the Reed story... here it is in great detail...

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/exposed10.html