I have wmplayer and winamp that I have tried as well as napsters internal mp3 player...I have nothing in my startup folder the only updates i have done is windows update i did not know there was a specific wmplayer update directly...I have not installed new video or sound cards and the problem was there before I installed any software really...I am considering going back to win98se if I cant get this resolved....I am thinking that maybe it could be my rage2c video card but I have the same video in my other computer that runs fine only difference is on 2nd computer the rage is built into the mother board...there is not a specific ME driver for the rage2c could this be the culprit...I have an s3trio video card that I can put in if it would be better..