Yes i have used them both, Nero is not listed in the defaults but Img was, i installed the new version but i did not reboot it was late late, try it tonight.

It kept going through write cycles, and the error message came up relatiung to the burner, nero was ok

was using 16x -jvc at 8 and 4x,,,,, used to use 8x but they sent me wrong ones this time

Tell you more tonight

tks