website with dynamic ip?

[jwisneski]

hi,
i have a web page on my home network it is accessable fine on the home network, i have a router (hard wired not wireless) i have it running on port 8080..i have tried to use the service offered by no-ip http://www.no-ip.com/
when i put the url http://johnhw2.bounceme.net i get the router in the browser
it does not forward to the 192.168.0.10 (port 8080) address i have put in my
port forwarding in the router i also have tried it on a 98 pc and get the same results.. what am i overlooking? john
cable connection -->router--->win-xp spk2<--->win98current-updates<---
netgear wireless router MR814
Service Name Start Port End Port Server IP Address
1 inwinmx 6699 6699 192.168.0.10
2 in/out/udppackmx 6257 6257 192.168.0.10
3 gort80-to-8080 8080 8080 192.168.0.10

Internet Port
MAC Address 00:09:5b:47:a4:91
IP Address 68.171.93.26
DHCP Client
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0

LAN Port
MAC Address 00:09:5b:47:a4:90
IP Address 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server
IP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

this is the way i have set up my no-ip port 80 redirects

johnhw.bounceme.net 68.171.93.26:8080
johnhw2.bounceme.net 68.171.93.26:80
i also have two web PAGE redirects that work fine with same ip 68.171.93.26

[SpywareDr]

Your ISP, Adelphia Cable Communications, may not allow setting up a web server on a personal account. Might check with them first.

[jwisneski]

hi spyware doctor,
i am aware that it may not be allowed by my isp...i have no intention of putting up a permenent web site. for one the pc would be on all the time
using electricity, second i have no earth shatering information that must be available to the world...and third i am not trying to sell anything...i have seen a site that was up briefly (1 day) that was reachable from the neighborhood
library but not accross town..its my understanding that it takes time for your domain name to propagate accross a networks...various routers and search engines...but this site WAS visable on port 81 or 8080 this was some time ago ( a year?) what i have now is a redirected web page functioning fine
(geocities.com site)..but the port 80 redirect stops at the routers external
(web ip) and displays the routers administration page if directed to port 80 a
redirect to 81, or 8080 gives the page cannot be displayed this happens with two different pc's 98 and xp its as if the router is not forwarding the request to my internal IP's and ports (i do get a DCOM error 10009) inthe error log saying cannot resolve ip's of 192.168.0.1 and .10 and .04 i am simplely interested in learning about ports network config and such for my own edification and a job in the future with IT..any help would be appreciated a link to some easily understandable tutorials about the subject thanks john

one question running the netstat -a cmd gives me this line
LOCAL ADDRESS FORIEGN ADDRESS STATE
TCP newgort:81 newgort:0 listening
TCP newgort:8080 newgort:0 listening

LISTENING ON PORT ZERO???

[SpywareDr]

i am aware that it may not be allowed by my isp...

Personally, I don't really care if you decide to break your contract with Adelphia (see quotes below) or not. The fact that you cannot access your computer from elsewhere on the internet could simply be because Adelphia is blocking (or attempting to block) all such attempts.

Also, in light of the Adelphia Contract excerpts below, we, as VirtualDr members are actually prohibited from helping you. Our AUP (Acceptable Usege Policy) (http://www.jupitermedia.com/corporate/privacy/aup.html) states:

By using these Forums, you agree to the following:

• You will not use these Forums for the purposes of sharing ... information designed to do harm to or allow unlawful access to any computer hardware, software, networks, or any other systems.

Adelphia quotes:

http://www.adelphia.com/high_speed_internet/faqs.cfm

Adelphia High-Speed Internet may not be used with a server of any kind.

http://www.adelphiapowerpage.com/syn...cy_08_2004.pdf

You agree that You shall not operate a server of any type that provides services to other users, or for your own use over the Adelphia Broadband Service. You understand and agree that Adelphia has the right to monitor the Adelphia Network and, to the extent necessary, your computer system to ensure that You are not providing any services via your connection. You understand and agree that Adelphia has the right to take any measures it deems necessary in its sole discretion to prevent the use of the Adelphia Broadband Internet Service for uses other than those prescribed in this Agreement.

--

2. Generally Prohibited Conduct.

You agree not to use, or allow Users to use, the Adelphia Broadband Service, the Adelphia Network, the Equipment or the Software:

(g) to run a server of any type in connection with the Adelphia Broadband Service, or to provide network or host services to others via the Adelphia Network. Prohibited uses include, without limitation, running servers for PPP, FTP, HTTP, DNS, POP, SMTP, NNTP, Proxy (any variety), DHCP, IRC, TELNET, TFTP, SNMP and multi-user interactive forums, and remapping of ports for the purpose of operating a server on the Adelphia Network;

--

The following topics, among others, are explained in the attached Agreement Terms and Conditions and other attachments:

• You may not use Adelphia Broadband Service to operate a customer-based server of any type.

Adelphia Internet Access Service Agreements
http://www.adelphia.com/esafety/service_agreements.cfm

[jwisneski]

hi spyware dr,

thankyou for the reminder of contract violation, but i had no intention of establishing a website of anykind i was merely curious as to how you would use the free no-ip service (only two services are free)...NOW the redirect from no-ip's server to another server (free geocities website) worked fine
it was the port redirect that was giving me trouble somewhere as it appeared as though the router was not forwarding from the web ip address to my internal networks ipaddress/port config but i am not certain of that..at this point however the topic is moot....i have QUIT trying to put up a service of anykind....i myself will not help a friend with a pc that has a pirated copy of
XP..all i ever have is two or three pc's runing at the same time and i have
legitamite O.S.'s for them and although i have a curiousity as to all things PC
ripping off MS is not one of them..(or adelphia)...THIS forum has been very helpfull to me the last couple years....AND i would like to take this time to appoligize...i am sorry if any of my questions may have led any of you to also violate a contract or law of any sorts again i am sorry and will not post questions of this sort in the future, i will however be posting about other problems i am sure thanks john

[ProfessorU]

As I have no idea about your knowledge of networking I will present two proposals:
1) I think your problems with this could be a feature of your firewall or other security measures. The average user should NOT be accepting incoming connections. Configuring your PC to accept incoming connections, particularly in the first 1024 ports, is not usually a good idea. Even if your security settings are set to allow this, your ISP may have these disabled, as VirtualDr points out.
2) You're unaware of the difference between internal and external IP addresses. The 192.168.x.x-series IPs you have listed are all internal addresses. There are no servers on the internet that have that IP. Many clients have that IP, however. To serve to the internet you'll need the external IP, the one given to you by your ISP.

Maybe someone else here can loan some links to you about IPs.

[Tuttle]

Wrt your netstat output, the listening is being done on ports 81 and 8080 respectively. the "newgort:0" stuff in the foreign address column means that the process is listening on the IP address which newgort resolves to (probably your network card). "0.0.0.0:0" is the common one there, which means the process is listening on all interfaces. "127.0.0.1:0" means the process is only listening for connections from your local machine. With a particular IP address or hostname in there, it means the process is only listening on that particular network interface.

[jwisneski]

hello professorU,

i have the internet port address and the LAN port address listed in the original
post...now this is not really funny but i left my system open and running and when i arrived back from work...couldn't even open an application..just nothing so i am reformating and re-installing from square one...by the way this pc has been in need of this for the last couple months anyway and most of what i needed was stored elsewhere..i have had some spare time as of late so i put 2kserver on another pc now i was looking at active directory and configured the 2k pc as a dns server now when i joined the domain my xp pc started aquireing strange ip address's out side of the range of my LAN..while still being connected to it..(that is what ipconfig said anyway) also i have a network utility that scans and reports ports different then the cmd prompt netstat -a does....so...bering this all in mind i am not surprised of the outcome but rarely have i learned anything the easyway gratefull for any help i can get john

[jmwills]

Long threads to read but the internal machine will have to have a static IP address behind the router with DNS pointing to 127.0.0.1 (if I'm thinking this will act the same way as an SBS box), if not you can get the DNS info from an ipconfig /all command.
You might be easier to utilize a Dynamic DNS service such as No-IP.com

[jwisneski]

hi jmwillis,

i was trying to use no-ip and got the web redirects to work just fine (one external web server to another external) the reason i had my 2k server configured as a DNS server was i think it has to be to use active directory
in doing all that (with the 2k server) i failed to notice right away that my other pc was reisued another internal ip 192.168.0.9 to 192.168.0.10 anyway..
i now have a fresh copy of XP up and running ..again thanks for any and all help it is appreciatted john

[SpywareDr]

Thank You ... in more ways than one. Appreciate your maturity and, we look forward to having you around here for many years to come!