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January 22nd, 2010, 12:30 AM
#1
[RESOLVED] Computer delays re-start after shutdown
This is kinda wierd and just recently started. My computer runs fine but when I shut it down like in the morning when I leave for work like I usually do and come home in the evening and hit the start button nothing happens. A couple of times I hit the power switch on the strip and then immediately hit power and it started. And then that didn't work either.
Oh did I mention that after a few minutes or an hour or sometimes three after hitting the power button the comp comes on by itself and then runs perfectly. It seems to be getting longer and longer before the computer starts so I'm now leaving it on all the time till I get a solution.
I've checked all internal wire connections etc. and the power button itself still has the little "click" when I hit it and doesn't seem to be the problem.
About four years ago my power supply was fried by a power surge and my technician replaced my 350W PWS with a 250W PWS model. I complained and he was supposed to get me another 350W but never did so I'm 50 watts below the recommended minimum for my MB. But it's never acted up in all this time till oh about six weeks ago when it started acting up.
So is it my power supply or something else? How do I find out? Would it have anything to do with that little button battery on my MB? My computer is about seven or eight years old now and it's never been replaced.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Last edited by rythymace; January 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 AM.
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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January 22nd, 2010, 12:53 AM
#2
Try a different outlet, and without the power strip as a test. I'm betting that you need a new power supply though.
Link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023
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January 22nd, 2010, 01:16 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by jdc2000
Different outlet is not an option, I only have one on this side of the house and it checks out ok.
As to the power strip I'm sure it's not the problem, the first thing I did was put a new power cord from the power supply to the power strip and changed to a different outlet plug when I did that. I also have a printer, phone, speakers and a small fan (only used in summer) I use for aux. cooling of the cpu none of which is giving the slightest problem. It has a very heavy cord and it is a relatively new power strip/surge protector. when I say relatively new I mean it's about a year old and not a cheapie.
I'm kind of leaning to the power supply thing my self, but why doesn't it give problems when the computer is actually running? I've never had one do this before.
Thanks for the reply.
HP Desktop PC
64 bit Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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January 22nd, 2010, 03:01 AM
#4
1 year is enough time for the capacitors in the 250 to weaken and we must take into concideration the adition draw needed when the computer starts up.
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January 22nd, 2010, 03:28 AM
#5
I have yet to see a 250W power supply that was worth anything. Post the brand and we may have further info on it.
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January 22nd, 2010, 09:37 AM
#6
The power supply brand is FSP Group Inc. I was looking at a Coolmax unit at Mwave.com for the good price of $16.99 for a 400W unit. I can't afford to spend much right now would that be a good enough unit to buy?
HP Desktop PC
64 bit Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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"Half of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at."
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January 22nd, 2010, 10:06 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Train
1 year is enough time for the capacitors in the 250 to weaken and we must take into concideration the adition draw needed when the computer starts up.
Actually it's the power strip/surge protector that's a year old, the power supply itself has been installed since about Oct. '05
HP Desktop PC
64 bit Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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"Half of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at."
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January 22nd, 2010, 11:55 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by rythymace
Actually it's the power strip/surge protector that's a year old, the power supply itself has been installed since about Oct. '05
It has done right well but still, it is time to replace it.
That power supply is so cheap it really scares me.
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January 22nd, 2010, 10:19 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by Train
It has done right well but still, it is time to replace it.
That power supply is so cheap it really scares me.
Check it out here and tell me what you think, they have some really good prices.
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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January 22nd, 2010, 10:37 PM
#10
The price is low, but personally, I wouldn't touch that Coolmax PSU with a 10 foot power cable. The one I listed has 2300 reviews with a 73% 5 egg rating and is only $32 with rebate, plus it is from a highly rated manufacturer. I have used quite a few of those myself to replace junk stock PSUs.
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January 22nd, 2010, 10:40 PM
#11
Use the one jdc listed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023
If I remember right, we had a party lose a mobo with that one you listed a while back.
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January 22nd, 2010, 11:11 PM
#12
I absolutely hate rebates that make you jump through all sorts of hoops and fill out forms and get them in correctly, especially for just ten bucks. My feeling is that you sell the product at a reasonable and real price and don't hassle your customers with paperwork and long wait times for a check. I regularly boycott companies that engage in that type of marketing and refuse to be a part of it.
Thanks for the recommendations, I probably won't buy the Coolmax but I need something with a better price than the Thermaltake which I know is a premium brand. If this 250W cheapie hasn't blown my MB in four years I doubt it's gonna blow if I put in a medium grade 400 watter. I'll look for a better brand with some good recommendations.
I'm gonna go check out Best Buys online and see if they have any deals going, I'd rather put money into the product than shipping and handling anyway.
HP Desktop PC
64 bit Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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"Half of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at."
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January 22nd, 2010, 11:44 PM
#13
Mwave.com has the Thermaltake for a cheaper price than newegg . If I can't find a better deal on a decent unit I may get this one from them. Just have to find a way to scrape up a few more bucks.
THERMALTAKE W0070RUC
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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January 23rd, 2010, 12:03 AM
#14
There you go.
After 10 years, there are some brands I would not wish on my worst enemy.
Here is a link to my favorite ps.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...8791&name=XION
Learned how good they are when two 250000 volt lines slapped together.
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January 23rd, 2010, 12:42 AM
#15
 Originally Posted by Train
Interesting you mention that as that's what happened to me. Tree experts were removing trees outside my house and dropped a limb onto the power service lines to my house which were improperly insulated at the entrance point and fried everything electronic on one side of my house. Power company paid to replace everything including my refrigerator, microwave etc and of course my power supply which unfortunately was done by a dishonest repairman.
Question; My MSI board says it requires a minimum of 300W for the power supply. I notice that one you like is 650, is there a maximum I should watch out for? Don't want to overdo it. But I don't do stuff that requires a lot of power anyway.
Not sure that Xion would work for me with the fan on top, there are no vents in the top of the case above where my PSU goes. There are some in the middle and toward the front but not above the PS.
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64 bit Windows 10 Pro
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz 3.10 GHz
8.00 GB RAM (7.89 GB usable)
Installed on 1/15/2022
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