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    Easy CD Creator 4 and CD-ROM freeze

    I've got Easy CD Creator 4.02e and it seems to be working fine except in one situation. First, the details of my computer: I've got a SCSI CD-ROM (NEC CD-ROM Drive 464) (Drive F:\) and my CD writer is also a SCSI (Plextor PlexWriter 12/10/32s) (Drive E:\). My computer is a Dell OptiPlex GXa, 266mhz, Pentium II, with 128 mb ram, running Windows 98se.

    My problem is that whenever there is an audio CD in my CD-ROM (Drive F:\) and I run Easy CD Creator 4.02e, the CD-ROM (Drive F:\) locks up and the program Easy CD Creator also freezes. The same thing happens when I insert a CD in Drive F:\ while Easy CD Creator is running. After the freeze, I must reboot my computer to free the CD-ROM (Drive F:\). Therefore, I've got to make sure there is no audio CD in the CD-ROM (Drive F:\) before running the program, nor can I insert an audio CD in the CD-ROM while the program is running. This is a hassle and would like to know why it is doing that and how to stop it, or work around it. I did recently upgrade version 4.02e to version 4.05 in hopes that it would fix the problem but to no avail.

    I have had good results ripping CD-Rs with Easy CD Creator 4.02e, however, since my CD-ROM (Drive F:\) is hooked into my sound card (CD-RW (Drive E:\) is not), I would like to use Easy CD Creator to listen and extract CD tracks, and it is not possible with the freezes. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I have read several other posts of similar problems with the program, but nothing identical. Any ideas or help will be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Looks like Roxio may not know what to do with NEC drives. I have Easy CD Creator 5 Platinum and an NEC DV-5500A DVD drive and I cannot use the CD copier because it scans a while then freezes the mouse, the tray clock, then it scans again, then freezes again. When I got the computer it had Easy CD Creator 3.5 on it and it worked fine with the NEC drive. If you can get anything out of Roxio, please post it.

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    I am still looking for a solution. I have emailed Roxio tech support, but am not holding my breath waiting for a solution from them. I tried getting some info from them about the incompatibility between the DXR-3 and XP and if new drivers are coming out. They told me that the Tech Support people are not advised about things like that. If they don't let their tech support know, how are they supposed to answer questions about it?

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    Jubal: Can’t quite figure out where you are. You mention EZCD 3.5 working fine and XP. No way EZCD 3.5 is going to be working with XP, so I assume you have recently upgraded. What is DXR-3?

    Start your own thread with some complete information and someone might be able to help.
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    I do not have XP because some of the stuff I have is incompatible with it. I was trying to get information on new drivers from Creative not Roxio as I may have led you to believe.

    At any rate version 3.5 of Easy CD Creator worked great with my DVD drive but when I put version 5 Platinum on I can no longer copy CD's.

    I am using Windows ME and
    don't plan on upgrading to XP because my DXR3 and part of my Sound system is not compatible with it.

    I thought maybe EZCDC 5 Platinum would be much better than 3.5, and it is except for the CD copier not working. However Nero 5.5 will copy them, but I do not like Nero it seems a bit disjointed and just has the feel of shareware.

    I know XP will not work with EZCDC 3.5 I ran the install analyzer and it told me so, also my Aureal Control Panel.

    The DXR3 is hardware decoding for DVD's, and there are no XP drivers for it. Creative says the Win 2000 BETA driver might work. Thats not good enough.

    Sorry if I misled anyone. Also I was trying to tell rdkapp, that my NEC drive even though it was DVD had the same kind of problems with EZCDC.



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    rdkapp

    Are you running WMP 7.X...?
    There are known problems between Easy CD Creator and WMP. This was a COMPAQ advisory but applies to most brands.
    http://www.compaq.com/support/techpu...12_CW01_0.html

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    Thats about the third place I have seen version 4.02 of Easy CD Creator listed as software involved with problems with CD drives. I think the problem is not so much WMP, but with Roxio itself. EZCDC 3.5 works with WMP7 and has no problem with the drives. Seems as soon as some puts in EZCDC 4.02 or later problems crop up with the ASPI layer and/or CD drives. In fact I think one of the places I saw this referenced was a site explaining about ASPI layer. I can't remember which sites. And it seems that if Nero 5.5 does not have the same problem, then WMP is probably not the culprit. It seems to always come back to EZCDC 4.02 and greater.


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    I had problems with MusicMatch last year, and their technical support suggested that I install the ASPI driver they have on their site:

    ASPI32.EXE

    This may, or may not help you with your problems. Note that the drivers are for Windows 9x/NT.

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    I don't know much about ASPI, but it seems to me that if everyone supplies their own, then I can see where major problems would occur. Adaptec has a version on their site that appears to be the same as I have, even though they say it is not for Win Me. There is also a file called aspichk.exe that will check you computer for the installation of the aspi stuff. It is at this site.
    http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/sup...ey=aspichk.exe

    I still think Adaptec and now Roxio have really dropped the ball on EZCDC 4.02 and later.

    One final point. If you run aspichk.exe and it tells you that the aspi files are already there but they can find no Host Adapter, then go into device manager and remove your CD roms and restart and let Windows put them back. At least thats what fixed my missing Host Adapter.

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    Thanks and Happy New Year to everyone who responded to my original post. I've been doing my own research based upon your responses.

    First, Smittee, the Compaq advisory about the conflict between ECDC and WMP 7.x applied only to Win 2000 operating system. I'm using Win 98SE.

    Second, I've uninstalled and reinstalled ECDC 4.02e and Direct CD and updated each to no avail. ECDC 4.02e (updated) still didn't work with my NEC CD-ROM.

    Third, all this talk about ASPI was intriguing, so I did my own research and the following are some of my findings.

    1. ECDC 4.02 does not use the normal ASPI layer at all - even with SCSI writers. See the following hyperlink: http://listserv.roxio.com/SCRIPTS/WA..._DISC&P=R13929

    2. I found the following post as being a fairly close to identical description of my problem and a possible solution posted. The solution is to revert to the ASPI file supplied by Windows 98. See this hyperlink: http://listserv.roxio.com/SCRIPTS/WA...P=R3917&m=1364

    I think this may be my solution! What does everyone think? However, I do have a question: How do you revert to the ASPI file supplied by Windows 98?

    Looking forward to your replies.

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    Don't know for sure but with no ASPI layer, the EIDE ATAPI drives may still have problems with audio extraction. I have not come up with a solution yet, but still looking for one. I know after I installed EZCDC 5 Platinum, somehow it caused me to lose my Host Adapter, and when I tried to run my Sound Editor to extract audio I got the message there was no ASPI installed and only SCSI drives would work. I had to go to Device Manager and remove the drives and restart to have them put back before the sound editor would work with the drives again. This did not fix the problem with EZCDC though. I still think it comes down to what Adaptec/Roxio has done. Why should Nero 5.5 work and EZCDC 4.02 and later have problems?

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    Jubal Have you upgraded your EZCD to version 5.02c? They fix a lot of stuff with updates. With version 5 you don’t have to update DirectCD separately as you do with earlier versions.

    rdkapp Download both the ASPI check program and the Force ASPI – links to both here: http://aspi.radified.com/ If the ASPI check program shows your ASPI to be corrupted, I would load the Adaptec ASPI with Force ASPI before going further and see how it works. Instructions for using Force ASPI: http://www.flexion.org/aspi/

    As the page points out, the “A” in ASPI stands for Adaptec, and their ASPI is standard. If you want to go further and delete the Adaptec ASPI and load the Windows ASPI, use the DumpASPI utility in Force ASPI to delete your ASPI installation. You should be able to extract the Windows ASPI files from your Win98SE CD using the system file checker (Start>Run, type SFC and enter). This article has the file names you would be looking to extract – I think the ASPI file names are the same between the Win95 listed and 98: http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/aspi.htm
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    Yes I updated to 5.02c, it does not matter. It still has problems.

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    Some of you may want to check this link.

    http://aspi.radified.com/


    And this link:

    http://www.flexion.org/aspi/

    OOPS: This was sent by mistake just duplicates above. However now that it is done, the file name on the Radified link about apienum.vxd probably should read aspienum.vxd.

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    Versions of Easy CD Creator from 4.02 and later do not require an ASPI layer of any type. Forcing an ASPI layer onto that program that neither wants or needs it does no good for Creator itself, as the link you've provided probably indicates. The SCSI card itself, however, certainly needs one, and you haven't told us if you have current drivers installed, or who makes it, for that matter.

    Adaptec's ASPI layer sometimes doesn't play well with other brands of cards, so you should install what the manufacturer has as a first choice.

    For the record, ASPI stands for Advanced SCSI Programmers Interface. Adaptec's has become the de facto standard, as theirs has the widest deployment, but it is not the only game in town. If you never forced another ASPI installation (which 4.02 will not do), you will still have the ones from Win98 (or from the SCSI card).

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