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February 12th, 2018, 02:41 PM
#31
I knew about the Dec rollup. You're saying that the January Rollup is also wonky? If so, you should have said so. I thought there was something wrong in my computer
Event Viewer for ---894
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Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient
Date: 2/11/2018 11:45:17 PM
Event ID: 20
Task Category: Windows Update Agent
Level: Error
Keywords: Failure,Installation
User: SYSTEM
Computer: Win7comp
Description:
Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80073712: Security Update for Windows (KB4056894).
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-WindowsUpdateClient" Guid="{945A8954-C147-4ACD-923F-40C45405A658}" />
<EventID>20</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>1</Task>
<Opcode>13</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000028</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2018-02-12T04:45:17.823845400Z" />
<EventRecordID>134108</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="356" ThreadID="4304" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>Win7comp</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-18" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="errorCode">0x80073712</Data>
<Data Name="updateTitle">Security Update for Windows (KB4056894)</Data>
<Data Name="updateGuid">{8B1C8726-9725-436D-B507-AF67B2E38B23}</Data>
<Data Name="updateRevisionNumber">501</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>
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February 12th, 2018, 02:48 PM
#32
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February 13th, 2018, 10:54 PM
#33
I used the MS Troubleshooter, and I've made some progress. The January installed but the Feb didn't. I'll run the sfc in Safe-Mode again, and drop this for a while.
Win7 Ult/ 3.40 GHZ Intel Core i5-3570K /ASRock mobo Z77 Pro4 /SSD/ EUFI MS 3400 MHZ/8 GB RAM; Win 7 Ult/Verizon FIOS wired network
Waterfox Classic/Chrome / Firefox 115esr
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February 18th, 2018, 08:43 PM
#34
I'm done with this, and I'm worn out by 25 years of Microsoft's garbage, and I have assorted other words for them and their machines that can't be used on this forum. If I get a virus, I'll wipe my drive and install my HD clone.
Last edited by foxy; February 18th, 2018 at 09:35 PM.
Win7 Ult/ 3.40 GHZ Intel Core i5-3570K /ASRock mobo Z77 Pro4 /SSD/ EUFI MS 3400 MHZ/8 GB RAM; Win 7 Ult/Verizon FIOS wired network
Waterfox Classic/Chrome / Firefox 115esr
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"The medium is the message." - Marshall McLuhan
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February 19th, 2018, 04:21 PM
#35
I made one more try last night after I was less ticked off.
I installed KB4074587, dated 2/13, last night, Win wouldn't start today, had to do a sys restore. This has been going on since Dec, and it's all tangled up in my brain. I need some clarification, as I've gotten no online work done, the kind that brings in $, in 2 days.
1--I know some of those updates are supposed to fix the MeltDown/Spectre thing. Are my updates not installing because of the MeltDown/Spectre thing, or is it the other way around? Or is it a diff problem in Win messing with the updates?
2--Belarc shows only these installed since Sept:
KB4040980 on 9/15/2017 (details...)
no verification data KB4048957 on 11/17/2017 (November 14,
2017—KB4048957 (Monthly Rollup)Applies to: Windows Server 2008 R2 indows 7 Service Pack 1)
no verification data KB4054998 on 1/10/201 (Security and Quality
Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1 for Windows 7 SP1 and Server 2008 R2 SP1)
3--Elsewhere I found instructions to post CB logs from Win, attached.
4--If the Feb update is defective, I'll just wait till MS re-re-re-repairs it.
I have a 550KB attachment of CBlogs, they won't attach. I'll get back to it.
Last edited by foxy; February 19th, 2018 at 04:50 PM.
Win7 Ult/ 3.40 GHZ Intel Core i5-3570K /ASRock mobo Z77 Pro4 /SSD/ EUFI MS 3400 MHZ/8 GB RAM; Win 7 Ult/Verizon FIOS wired network
Waterfox Classic/Chrome / Firefox 115esr
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February 19th, 2018, 04:56 PM
#36
If the KB4074587 update was the only one that you installed, and you had to do a System Restore, then it is most likely that Microsoft still has not gotten this update right. One of my systems also required a System restore after I installed 2 updates, KB4074587 may have been one of those.
I would not be too concerned about the Spectre-Meltdown updates as yet, since stable updates are not yet available for all systems, and because researchers are still finding additional ways to exploit the vulnerabilities, so additional patches will be still be needed in the future. This does not mean that you not vulnerable to the Spectre-Meltdown exploits, however. Everyone is until all possible attack vectors have been discovered and patched. As always, staying away from web sites that might host malware that can take advantage of the vulnerabilities is the key.
I am not sure how valuable the log files would be. They can be split into parts for posting here, but you may want to post just the most recent section of data that will fit first.
You can wait to see if the March Update Rollup will install.
An alternative option that you might want to look into testing is Linux Mint with the Cinnamon desktop:
https://linuxmint.com/
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February 19th, 2018, 07:34 PM
#37
Is there anything effective and simple to fix this? My computer that had Windows 7 installed when i bought it 5 years ago is now throwing me that error 10 times a day. It is annoying but I am wondering when it will decide NOT to open anymore since it thinks it is not a genuine version.
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February 19th, 2018, 08:35 PM
#38
Cassel -
What error are you referring to? Post the complete error message (or a screen capture of it).
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February 19th, 2018, 09:10 PM
#39
On the bottom part of the desktop it says:
Windows 7
Build 7601
This copy of Windows is not genuine
Often, I get a popup in the corner asking me to activate my key (i didn't get a screenshot of that one so i don't have the exact wording)
Then I get a popup saying:
Optional update delivery is not working
You may be a victim of software counterfeiting.
To use all Microsoft windows features, such as all
updates from Windows Update, get the latest updates;
and receive product support, your copy of Microsoft
Windows must be validated as genuine
And i also "lost" my desktop as it is only black now.
I rebooted my computer today, thinking it would go away, but it didn't
Last edited by Cassel; February 19th, 2018 at 09:12 PM.
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February 19th, 2018, 09:25 PM
#40
We don't have the same problem. Please start yours on a separate thread.
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February 19th, 2018, 09:27 PM
#41
Oh ok.. when i did a search in the forum that was the closest thread that came up for it. Thanks. I`ll start another one
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