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January 26th, 2017, 01:23 AM
#1
Windows 10 or windows 7 pro
I would like to receive feedback on whether people who use win 10 like/dislike it and whether they would recommend it. I am going to buy a laptop and not sure if I should buy one with win 10 or go with win 7 pro and buy a refurbished laptop. I have an oem version of win 7 pro that I bought at a decent price a while back that I haven't installed yet. Eventually, I am going to build a pc and not sure if I should install win 7 pro or win 10.
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January 26th, 2017, 10:27 AM
#2
First what is the end of life
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...cle-fact-sheet
The Toshiba I got in 2009, is now running Linux as I was not buying another copy of Win 7, yes it is still running on the original battery.
I would go with a refurb with Win 10. lifecycle and Win 7 updates, I see lots of folks having problems getting them. Myself included. So 7 has been removed from my hdds.
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January 26th, 2017, 03:54 PM
#3
Unless you have a compelling reason, I'd go with Win10.
If you don't like the Win10 interface, there are ways to "Sevenify" Win10, like Classic Shell.
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/ma...like-windows-7
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January 26th, 2017, 06:09 PM
#4
On a new machine, Windows 10 might be the way to go. However, there are some things to be aware of:
1. You will want to review the security settings and set them to a level you are comfortable with. By default, they send a lot of data back to Microsoft, possibly more than you would want.
2. If you need this system to be fully operational at all times, you may also want to adjust the update settings so you don't get updates as soon as they are released. You will need at lease Windows 10 Pro for this. Otherwise, you may find that an update has caused a problem that might prevent you from getting work done.
If you need HIPAA compliance on the system, you may need assistance in setting it up.
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January 26th, 2017, 06:39 PM
#5
Ya, the security stuff is a problem. I use O&O ShutUp10. It's a lot easier than going through all the settings manually.
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
If you really want to prevent updates, I'd just disable the Windows Update service. However, you'd need to re-enable it every time you want an update.
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/turn-o...-in-windows-10
If you're using Wifi, you could set it as a "metered" connection:
http://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how-...ading-updates/
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January 26th, 2017, 11:14 PM
#6
I appreciate the replies and very informative info.
Midknyte, good to know that one can have windows 10 look like win 7. I have never used win 7 either but may go that route when I get a win 10 machine. Also, very nice useful links you posted, as well. I will definitely use them when I get my win 10 machine. I would like to configure it that sends the least info back to Microsoft.
JDC2000, thank you for that very useful info, as well. What did you mean in #2? In Win 10, can't one use his computer while Microsoft sends updates?
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January 27th, 2017, 01:17 AM
#7
Sending is not the problem, when it goes into the doing the actual update, I make sure I have closed everything and let it do its thing.
One update took about 2 hours to do. HP Stream 11 it was. It did about 3 reboots and took up where it left off each time.
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January 27th, 2017, 02:10 AM
#8
Microsoft updates would not be a problem if Microsoft did any significant testing of them before releasing them. However, they seem to think that is your job. Some recent updates have caused Windows 10 users to lose their internet connection, or to no longer be able to play certain videos (removed codec). It is always better to let several million other users beta test the updates to see if any issues occur before you install them on your computers.
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January 27th, 2017, 03:52 AM
#9
Windows Updates causes problems on both, so I don't think it's a deciding factor. :P
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January 27th, 2017, 11:11 AM
#10
Midknyte, when you stated "...on both", were u referring to win 10 home and win 10 pro? What version would be best to use? Is pro the better choice?
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January 27th, 2017, 11:54 AM
#11
Win 7, I deban'd, as it would not update. Quite a few folks can not get it to update properly.
I actually think, M$ is messing up the win 7 updates to get out of supporting it.
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January 27th, 2017, 01:55 PM
#12
Originally Posted by JLS
Midknyte, when you stated "...on both", were u referring to win 10 home and win 10 pro? What version would be best to use? Is pro the better choice?
No, I meant on Win7 and Win10. My point is that Windows Update will be a problem no matter which OS you choose.
I always do a local install of Win7 updates. Autopatcher makes it easy.
http://www.autopatcher.net/forum/
After the "Anniversary" update, the Windows Update settings for Win10 Pro changed. You can't use the Group Policy settings to block automatic updates anymore. Your choices are either turn your network connections to "metered" or disable the Windows Update service. Those work for both Win10 Home and Pro.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html
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January 27th, 2017, 04:52 PM
#13
Midknyte, is it advantageous to get a pc/laptop with win 10 pro vs win 10 home? Is there any benefit, especially regarding the security and update issue we discussed? Which would you suggest?
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January 27th, 2017, 05:20 PM
#14
Win10 Home is fine for most people. Win10 Pro is more for business.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/w...rence-3618710/
After a little more research, some people claim the Group Policy options still work in Pro, but when you open Windows Update it says automatic. I haven't tested it myself, though.
Note that setting network connections to metered will block automatic Windows Updates as well as Defender Updates. You can schedule a task to update Defender.
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/update...dates-disabled
Is it worth paying extra for those features? That's your call.
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January 27th, 2017, 05:38 PM
#15
I just tried Option 1, both the "Notify for download and notify for install" setting and disabling the policy.
The Windows Update settings screen still shows "Available updates will be downloaded and installed automatically, except over metered connections"
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html
They also state:
10. Sometimes it may take a while for it to kick in to not automatically download and install updates though.
So the only absolute methods are Options 4 and 5.
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