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  1. September 6th, 2001 07:05 PM #1
    Daizy
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    As I was getting extremely embarrassed to be poaching on greengoose1's thread http://discussions.virtualdr.com/For.../004875-2.html ....I'm going to try starting my own.

    I'm trying to get thoughts/ opinions on whether to upgrade this computer, or build/ buy a new one.

    Train...... what are you agreeing with bistro about? That I need a new mobo and cpu? Or just a cpu?

    Daizy

    And yes, I do only have a 4mb graphics card...but I have an AGP slot....won't that let me get a newer one?
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  2. September 6th, 2001 07:16 PM #2
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    How about a new computer.
    Upgrade on the cpu and motherboard I agree with. Yes, but the present mobo seems to support a 800 P III. now that is no slouch, If the information I found on it was correct.

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    What about the mobo , you think it is a antique? Ur the Intel guy.

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  3. September 6th, 2001 07:21 PM #3
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    Train:
    Yes, a new computer is absolutely an option as well...but first I want to see how long until I can make you all rue the day you answered this post!

    Daizy

    Now.....about that handy dandy AGP slot?!

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  4. September 6th, 2001 07:29 PM #4
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    Do you have a AGP card now?

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  5. September 6th, 2001 07:30 PM #5
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    Originally posted by Train:

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    What about the mobo , you think it is a antique? Ur the Intel guy.
    Hard to tell--perception is relative. To me? Yes. To Thomas Edison? A marvel of science.

    What I read for the "A+" version was that it's capable of only up to 500mhz. I would consider a whole new upgrade. But I realize that there are other considerations here, such as money, budget, buckaroonies, expenditures, bank accounts, dollars, etc.. Have to consider all those factors...



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  6. September 6th, 2001 07:37 PM #6
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    If the A+ only goes to 500 then a upgrade would be in line. I keep finding the A(N) mobo.

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  7. September 6th, 2001 07:38 PM #7
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    Originally posted by Train:
    Do you have a AGP card now?
    I'm totally resisting the urge to call you a Smart A**

    Let me rephrase my vast knowledge in a terminology you can comprehend.....I have an AGP SLOT!!!!

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  8. September 6th, 2001 07:41 PM #8
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    bistro:
    Yes....and ironically enough......here in Canada..... loonies! (That's our two dollar coin btw)

    Are you saying....or aren't ya...that changing out the motherboard AND cpu would be more expensive than buying/ building new?

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  9. September 6th, 2001 07:50 PM #9
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    Wanna know what my trusty manual says? Tough... I'm gonna tell ya anyhow!

    It says.....and I quote:
    MAXIMUM EXPANSION POTENTIAL:
    The P6BX-A+ has seven free expansion slots. Two slots are available for 16-bit ISA cards, and 5 slots support 32-bit PCI card. (one PCI slot and one ISA slot are shared. You can install and ISA card or a PCI card, bot not both together.) In addition, there is an AGP slot for the optional istallation of an AGP graphics card.

    HIGH PERFORMANCE PROCESSING
    The processor Slot-1 (plus the retention module) supports the latest high-performance Pentium-II processors from Intel. The mainboard uses the latest 440BX Pentium-II support logic chips. This chipset aslo supports a 100 MHz host and memory bus.

    Which means absolutely squat to me....but makes me feel really good about buying such fine equipment!

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  10. September 6th, 2001 07:52 PM #10
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    We established the fact you have a video card. Now what I am trying to find out if it is a PCI or AGP card that you have.
    Agp card plug into the AGP slot
    PCI video card should be plugged into the first PCI slot.
    Yes, have a few loonies and claim to be also.

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  11. September 6th, 2001 08:12 PM #11
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    Ok people...back the bus up! Seems I have been giving you all the information from the computer I fried before this one.

    Something didn't sound right...so I ventured to take the side off the case to have a gander...and lo and behold:
    It is a NEC FR520 1.0 Board
    Manufacturer GVC
    Model Monorail BIOS v0.40
    Serial Number 05/19/1999-SiS-620-2A6ING5AC-00
    Chipset SiS 620 Chipset

    System Chipset
    Model Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS620 CPU to PCI Bridge
    Bus(es) ISA AGP PCI USB SMBus/i2c
    Front Side Bus Speed 67MHz
    ACPI PM Support Yes

    System BIOS
    Manufacturer Award Software International, Inc.
    Version 4.51 PG
    Date 05/19/99
    Plug & Play Version 1.00
    SMBIOS/DMI Version 2.20
    ID No. FC 01 00
    (EE)PROM Size 256kB (2Mbit)


    Features
    Can be Updated (flashed) Yes
    Can be Shadowed Yes
    Is Socketed Yes
    Supports APM Yes
    Supports ACPI Yes
    Supports Plug & Play Yes
    Supports ESCD Yes
    Supports Enhanced Disk Drive Yes
    Supports Selective Booting Yes
    Supports LS-120 Boot Yes
    Supports ZIP Boot Yes
    NEC PC-98 Spec Compatible No

    Processor(s)
    Processor Intel Celeron @ 400MHz
    Co-Processor (FPU) Built-in
    Type Standard
    Packaging FC-PPGA Socket370
    Performance Rating PR480 (estimated)
    Rated Speed/FSB 400MHz / 67MHz
    Multiplier 6x
    Generation 6th (6x86)
    Model Information P6C (Mendocino) Celeron 300-533 2V
    Revision/Stepping 6 / 5
    Stepping Mask mB0
    Microcode MU066503


    Got this from SiSoft Sandra.

    I'm so sorry guys. Are ya saying "Uncle" yet?

    So, we're back to what Bistro said, I think...that this can only go to 500....does the upgrade to a new mobo/ cpu still apply?

    Daizy

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  12. September 6th, 2001 08:30 PM #12
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    If THIS or THIS is your motherboard, I'D GET A NEW ONE.....

    I'd call my uncle, but he knows nothing about computers

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  13. September 6th, 2001 08:37 PM #13
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    ceh383:
    Could you call your uncle anyhow?! That doesn't look like mine

    But thank you hugely for even attempting to read this post!

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  14. September 6th, 2001 08:44 PM #14
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    The chipset on these boards is different than what you list. Yet the second link is to GVC's web site.......go figure

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  15. September 6th, 2001 08:47 PM #15
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    That board appears to really be a GVC (or BCM) IN620 board. Not sure where the FR520 came from.

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