I used Add/Remove to remove both the expiring AVG and Norton.

I agree that there may be remnants of either or both, though I am not sure what to do about the remnants. I could do do a Search for files and folders and delete the remnants which are found, but you guys like to yell at folks when they do that.

I am using AVG on a monthly trial. I note that Kaspersky has gotten some good reviews, lately. Any serious warnings/objections to my trying Kaspersky?