Restoring old backup files

[Yabon]

Is there a way to restore backup files made under Win 3.11 on a comp working under Win NT, preferably without reinstalling Win 3.11 ?
Thanks.

Phil

[Limerick]

Hi Yabon,

What sort of backup software was used to create the backup files that you are seeking to restore? If the software was written to run under Win 3.11, I would be surprised if it ran under NT. If you have access to an old "clunker" machine, your best shot may be to install Win 3.11 on it... restore the files... and then take the files to the NT machine via floppy, Zip drive or whatever means are available to you.

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[Yabon]

Thanks for your answer Limerick.
The backup software used was the one provided with Win 3.11 : MWBackup. I haven't be able till now to find an old machine with Win 3.11. Maybe some day...
Thanks anyway.
Yabon

Originally posted by Limerick:
Hi Yabon,

What sort of backup software was used to create the backup files that you are seeking to restore? If the software was written to run under Win 3.11, I would be surprised if it ran under NT. If you have access to an old "clunker" machine, your best shot may be to install Win 3.11 on it... restore the files... and then take the files to the NT machine via floppy, Zip drive or whatever means are available to you.

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[Limerick]

Hi Yabon,

One other thought on this. If you have Partition Magic, you could easily carve out another partition to install Win 3.1 into. If you don't have that product, you could use this (http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/) freebie to do so.

Limerick

[KHLange]

Originally posted by Yabon:
Is there a way to restore backup files made under Win 3.11 on a comp working under Win NT, preferably without reinstalling Win 3.11 ?
Thanks.

Phil

Hello Phil

I have got a similar problem with restoring under DOS 5.0 backupped files, first I installed DOS 5.00 on diskettes from which I booted, then I went on restoring to a hdd-partition that was equivalent to the former one, it went quite well till system brokje down at the first corrupt file, thank God it was the 78/95 and not the 1st or 3rd. But another problem had been to formate the old 5,25" disks then, I had got the worst problems, at DOS 5.0 as well as under Windows 98SE, so I came to the conclusion that the oldening process of the matrix must have made the magnetic microcores uncontrollable. Even the good old PC-Diskfix in its last version 9 did solve the problem; so there is only one solution. Throw away the old stuff, and teh old floppies had been so expensive :´-(



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[Eeyore]

If you have the Windows 95 Install CD either Upgrade or OEM, the programs are in the OLDMSDOS folder. This can be added to you system and generally used with Windows 95. I don't know if NT has a similar collection of programs. I also thought I saw somewhere that you could download this collection from Microsoft's website. But I have bee unable to find it. See This Microsft article about it (http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q138/1/35.asp?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=restoring%20from%20backup&rnk=2&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=W95). I got no results for Windows 98 or NT.

If you have a system with a fair amount of memory, you can create a Ramdrive (http://www.geocities.com/politalk/rmdrv/dos.htm) and run DOS 6.x from a floppy without affecting the programs on the computer. That way you could restore to a floppy or a DISK (as DOS 6.x cannot access a FAT32 drive if that's how you are set).
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[Vernon Frazee]

If you have the Windows 95 Install CD either Upgrade or OEM, the programs are in the OLDMSDOS folder. ... I also thought I saw somewhere that you could download this collection from Microsoft's website.

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/products/windows/windows95/cdromextras/otherutilities/olddos.e xe (ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/products/windows/windows95/cdromextras/otherutilities/olddos.exe)

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[This message has been edited by Vernon Frazee (edited 01-07-2001).]

[This message has been edited by Vernon Frazee (edited 01-09-2002).]

[Eeyore]

Actually, Vernon, the article I found:
CD-ROM Extras DMF Diskettes Folder (Directory) Listing (http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q150/3/30.asp?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=oldmsdos&rnk=1&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=W95)
List the contents of the disketts, but the file you posted for download doesn't have:
Contents of the MSBACKUP Folder
MSBACKUP HLP 314,236 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKUP.HLP
MSBACKUP OVL 133,936 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKUP.OVL
MSBACKFR OVL 73,706 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKFR.OVL
MSBACKFB OVL 69,530 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKFB.OVL
MSBACKDR OVL 68,074 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKDR.OVL
MSBACKDB OVL 63,994 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKDB.OVL
MSBCONFG OVL 47,210 7-11-95 9:50a MSBCONFG.OVL
MSBCONFG HLP 45,780 7-11-95 9:50a MSBCONFG.HLP
MSBACKUP EXE 5,506 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKUP.EXE
MSBACKUP TXT 399 7-11-95 9:50a CHKSTATE.SYS
CHKSTATE SYS 41,600 7-11-95 9:50a MSBACKUP.TXT
INSTALL BAT 1,640 7-11-95 9:50a INSTALL.BAT

Which is what would be needed to the Windows Backup, as well as the DOS6.x Backup programs. The restore only works for files stored with the DOS 5.0 Backup.exe command. The files you listed was probably what I had seen before. Unfortunately, what Yabon needs probably can't be downloaded from MS.

PS:
Vernon, notice that the line "MSBACKUP.TXT" shows "CHKSTATE.SYS" for the Long Filename. They must use a different version of Windows over at MS.
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[This message has been edited by Eeyore (edited 01-07-2001).]

[Vernon Frazee]

Source, Microsoft KB: Commonly Asked Windows 95 Questions and Answers (http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q132/7/37.asp)
Windows 95 is available on CD-ROM and floppy disks. More components are included in the CD-ROM version because of the additional space available on the CD-ROM. To obtain the CD-ROM Extras for Windows 95 upgrade on 3.5-inch high-density disks, use the coupon included in your Windows 95 package. You can also download the CD-ROM Extras for Windows 95 upgrade from the Microsoft Software Library.

Source, Microsoft KB: CD-ROM Extras for Microsoft Windows 95 Upgrade (http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q135/3/15.asp)

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The following files are available for download from the Microsoft Download Center. Click the file names below to download the files:
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Admin\Apptools Folder
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Lfnb.exe (ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/products/windows/windows95/cdromextras/administrationtools/applicationtools/lfnb.exe) *
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Other Folder
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Olddos.exe (http://download.microsoft.com/download/win95upg/tool_s/1.0/W95/EN-US/olddos.exe)
Msback.exe (http://download.microsoft.com/download/win95upg/bkup_b/1.0/W95/EN-US/msback.exe)
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* This Lfnb.exe isn't actually listed in the download area on this page. I guess they forgot it? Anyway, found it on ftp://ftp.microsoft.com and inserted the download link.

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There are also a lot of other utilities available on this 2nd page as well as in ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/products/windows/windows95/cdromextras/.

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[Yabon]

Well many thanks all for your support !!!
I think I'm gonna be able now to restore my old files and I hope this can help other users too.
Thanks again.
Phil (Yabon)