new pc amd 64

[igual]

ok peeps need some advice my curent pc is basicaly dead moast of the hardware is tired so i am biting the bulit and gona build new system
the hard drives in my current system are ok both under 6 months old so i will be reusing them same with the dvd drive and cd drive
rest of the system will be new sooo
idealy would like something good for gaming got about 350-400 for the bits all ready have windows xp home cannot affor dthe 64 bit version atmo maybe that will be something for the future

would like to advoid asus at all costs have had bad experiences with there mobos

fire away peeps

[photolady]

I wouldn't worry about adding the 64bit windows version ever. Some drivers are not available as are some software not able to run on windows 64bit. Best to stick with the version you have until they get all the bugs worked out of the newest windows (Vista).

I like Gigabyte boards. And have used them on all my computers for the last 10 years with no problems. Couple of good ones to start in link below:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Gigabyte_Socket_939.html

[eddds40]

I have found the Gigabyte boards to be very good. I been using them for 5 years or so and think they are tops of the brands I been using

[igual]

ok so im looking at a gigabyte board or a bfg board to match up with the gpu card all from overclockers

im confused thought as to the amd 64 cpus there are venice and newcastle + san deigo soo basicaly what do ya recomend from hear http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/AMD_64_Bit.html

[Train]

I am using a MSI K8N Neo4 with a AMD 64 3200. Could not afford the AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 90nm (Socket 939) or video card of choice right now.
And why that chip, 1MB L2 cache!
Seen some reports on the newer AMD 64 X2 chips that I like.

By the way, My old setup is a MSI KT4AV-L WITH A 2500 Barton and the AMD64 3200 does the same projects in half the time! Love that IDEA!

[lgbpop]

I'll throw in a word for Abit boards. I've been using mine for six months now and it's a blast to tweak if you're into that kind of thing. Easy to flash the BIOS too, the rare times I'd need to. (I did it when I first got it to make sure it had the latest version, won't touch it again unless something major comes along.)

You must have had some bad experience with Asus. Most people rave about them.

[igual]

ye had to faulty asus boards both replaced by asus direct 3rd board ws still faulty at that stage i gave up with them think i made a decision on what im after it depends on insurance payout on other pc as to what i get but im hopeing for enough to go towards this little lot

[liam858]

Hmmm, i'd consider a larger PSU, 460W isn't that much now that 680's are available, and a nice high end system like that may need more power,lgbpop should chime in with the PSU calculator link soon.:)


Liam

[lgbpop]

And so he shall. (Thought I did that already!) Use this program (http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/) and add 20% for good measure.

[Train]

And so he shall. (Thought I did that already!) Use this program (http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/) and add 20% for good measure.


And if it comes up a oddball size, go to the next larger size. 600 watt was that size for me.

[igual]

well its all orderd and shuld be hear saturday morning

ignore the socket 754 mobo on there tahts for a m8

[liam858]

Cool, i'm gonna be building one around the same spec for one of my mates soon, reasonable price considering the spec. :)


Liam

[judge john]

very nice. wish mine only cost that much!

[igual]

well that was a total pooch screw:/
all the bits arrived at 9 am this morning had the system build by 10.30
too it upstaris and pluged monitor in booted her up to bios then the problems started.

it was takeing over 2 minuits for it to detect the ide drives when it finaly let me into bios i configured it to boot from cd then hdd plonkd the xp cd in and saved changes in bios restarted her then took anouther 2 mins to sort ide drives out would not load from xd hmmm
it has a option on bios to select boot device so i get the cd /dvd rom and off we go instaling xp .
xp instals first time no problems
reboots itself and tries to boot from hdd again 2 mins on bios screen then it goes to variying dmi pool data for abouther couple of mins then it kicked in with the xp slash screen and continued to load windows perfectly .

once all the genral windows bits sorted out i went to install the mobo drivers so took xp cd out mobo cd in all drivers instaled fine system reboots.
again still sits on the bios for ages finaly loads windows so at this stage i get onto tech suport at overclockers who i will say were very helpfull i ended up in a conference call with 3 tech guys for over 40 mins by this stage it had totayly stoped booting would get to dim pool data then say please insert system disk
yet if i booted from the hdd with the xp cd in the drive it bootd up fine.
now for the killer the tech asked if i had acss to anouther comp near by which i have downstairs as he wanted me to try flashing the bios so after a bit of charging about tying to find a floppy disk got the latest bios on and we went and flashed the bios now it would not even boot from hdd with the xp cd in no matter what we tried dam thing would not boot.
ended up haveing to strip the pc down again repackaging the mobo redy to be posted back to em on monday.
the tech and customer suport people got there heads together and recomended that i go for an ausu board as you know i have had major problems with asus in the past but they said if i had probs i could deal with it through them and they would help to try and sort it for me if not they would rma it themselfs so i now have a new asus mobo Asus A8N-SLi SE nForce4 SLi (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard which will be hear on tuesday so hopefully fingeres crossed will have a working system tuesday evening.
realy has iritaded me that but i guess it hapens sometimes.
the hdd that was in the new pc was the one from my old comp to make sure i wasent going mad i took it out of the new machine and put it back in old one and am useing it now to post this message with the exact origional install on it from the new pc so im guessing that at leastthe hdd is ok lol:/

[judge john]

well bad luck. at least it seems like the people at Overclockers gave it their best to help you. be thankful you didn't order it from a company that takes ages to answer and is located on the other side of the planet. i know your not a fan of Asus but they are generally great boards, so i hope you have better look with that.

[igual]

w00t well it definatly was the bfg mobo that was at fault
the asus mobo arived this morning and after a few teething problms and several sticky plaster later for me fingers pc was up and running like a dream.
aquamark benchmark returned a result of 74878 and 3dmark came back with 15607 prety good results considering it is untweaked
had a little play on battlefiled 2 and was reaching 85-98 fps never droped below 85 this was on a full 64 player server.

conclusion

bfg mobo looked lovely just dident work wont hold that against them as it is there first attempt at a mobo and if there graphics cards are anythng to go by once they get there mobos all sortd im sure they will rock

i spoke to the overclockers techs and they said was i bothered about sli so i replied bnot realy as if it comes to that in the future and i can afford it it will be with the latest greates componets so they recomended an asus a8r-mvp
even though this is an ati crossfire complient mobo with the bfg 7800 in it absoloutely rocks

am still stress testing the sytem atmo but so far despite my reservations about asus i have been proved gladly wrong

thanks for all the advice/moral suport

iggy

[liam858]

Wooooo! Nicely done, i love Asus boards, it should serve you well. :)


Liam

[judge john]

you got 3DMark05? would love to see what you got. and BF2 is sooo much better with a 7800GT :) . can't tell you how much better i am now that I’m not lagging about. also previously smoke grenades would always kill me. reason being the takes my FPS down to about 10 of less. but now with my current system bring on the smoke. looks great and has almost no effect on FPS

[igual]

hiyas well i downloaded 3dmark 05 and results are 6776 not sure where to compare them to see if that is any good lol hope that is of some use to ya john


ps john can you pm me sometime please regarding bf2 cheers