how to view cd

[newstar]

I just became aware that there is interactive material on a Rolling Stones cd. There are 3- live videos, but I have no idea how to view them. A directory listing just shows the audio tracks, 1 - 14. The cd is titled, "The Rolling Stones Stripped".

How can this be viewed?

[fink]

stick it in a DVD player and see what happens.

[NoBoB]

The 'Stripped' disc uses an unusual format that predates the currently used CD-Extra, from before a standard multimedia CD format was adopted. The data is stored in the pregap before the audio tracks, so the entire disc is a single session, something that isn't done anymore. The first audio track occurs at roughly 15:25 on the disc. Audio CD players skip over the data section, because they look for Index 1 of Track 1.

A program like ISObuster (http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster) can extract the data section from the pregap.

I haven't tried it (I've been meaning to redo this disc as a CD-Extra), but the instructions say to run Setupexe to access the material (there doesn't seem to be a setupexe on my disc). I don't know if that's really necessary anyway, and since the disc is from the Win3.1 era, who knows what'll happen if you do. The extracted .mov's play in Quicktime. They're not the sharpest videos (the disc claims they supposedly will play on a 486-25 w/4MB running Win3.1), but they're there.

[newstar]

NoBoB,

Thanks for the info. I installed isobuster and sure enough it found a track 00, where the 'additional information' is stored. However the program was unable to convert to an mpeg format. I got an error message "05/64/00".

Any further thoughts... ?

[newstar]

fink, i tried the dvd player without success...

[fink]

Yeah, after I read Nobobs reply I didn't think it would. I didn't know the CD was that old. Lets see what others have to say about it. One thing though is that they aren't mpegs they're .mov format.

[NoBoB]

I extracted the .mov's with isobuster and they play fine in Quicktime. They aren't .mpg's, so they won't normally play in something like Media Player, if that's what you were trying.

[fink]

There's a Quicktime alternative player here... smaller and less obtrusive than the actual Apple QT bloatware program.

http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm#kazaa

[newstar]

Isobuster is unable to "extract" track 00. I am unable to copy the raw data from the cd. Will try the alternative to Quicktime and post back.

Thanks all for your interest and assistance...

[fink]

If it can't extract the data then having the player won't help much. You won't have anything to play :)

ISObuster is one of the best file extractors available but perhaps someone else knows of another freebie file recovery tool to try.

[NoBoB]

You may have better success if you right-click on the ISO icon below Track 0 and choose "Extract Directory".

[newstar]

There is no icon below track '0'. In fact, there is no track '0'. 1st listed track is '00'. Immediately to the left of "Track 00" is a cd icon. To the left of the cd icon is a red + icon.

I don't see any option to 'Extract Directory' - anywhere....

[NoBoB]

You don't get an expanded tree if you click on the + ?

[newstar]

I get a screen with 2- panes. The right pane lists all the tracks; starting with the video track, track 00 followed by the audio tracks numbered 1-14. To the left of track 00 is a red '+' ; which is actually 2- colors. The '+' looks bold face and is outlined in black. Clicking on it does nothing. If I select track 00, and right click on it, the "Extrack Track 00" drop down menu appears. When I then select any option from the drop down menu, I get the error message, 'Sector 0 couldn't be read' The resultant error message is, "05/64/00". However a new file is created. It contains 0 bytes.

The left hand pane is the source. the listing shows the cd with a normal '+' sign. When opened, it reveals "Session 1". When this is opened I get the same listing of tracks as in the right pane.

(Hope this is clear)...

[NoBoB]

Well, I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps your disc is different from mine, or there's been some change in isobuster. On my system, the track is identified as Track 0 (single zero), below it is an ISO icon, and right-clicking on that gives me "Extract Directory". Below the ISO icon is a normal-looking Windows Explorer-style tree with the directory structure. If I select the "Media" folder, all the .mov's appear on the right side, and I can right-click on any of them and choose "Extract...".

If it's any consolation, the videos aren't very good.

[shiva_42]

newstar:

Please post screen shots of this view in IsoBuster if possible and I'll try to help further...

[newstar]

NoBoB, - I greatly appreciate your interest, time and effort expended in my behalf. I'm ready to give up on this one....

Again, thank you...

[newstar]

shiva_42,

I have screen images but don't know how to insert them in a reply here.

[Spooky Man G]

just post, at the bottom there is a place called Attach file: Hit browse, and find the pic. thats how I do it. or, youcould use the IMG button just above the Your Reply But Ive never used it...

[newstar]

will attempt to do so tonight... The img button didn't seem to provide more than a link, rather than actually posting the image...

[newstar]

here are screen shots...

[newstar]

one more, i could only attach a single image to a reply.

[NoBoB]

Well, now.

My ISObuster is older than the current release (as you can see in the screenshot), and at first I thought that may have something to do with it. Then, I put the disc in my CD Recorder (a Lite-On 52x) to get the screenshot, and I ended up with a display similar to yours, and there was nothing I could do to get access to the data track. This wasn't what I had experienced the first times I looked at the disc.

So, I put it in my DVD Recorder. I must have used that drive originally, since I now have the ISObuster display I've been describing (see attached screenshot). Most unusual.

I don't know what's different about the two drives (well, other than DVD recording capability). Perhaps a different reader will give you access to the data track.

[RRampRRatz]

Is there a QTinstal.exe on the cd?
I've a cd, "Johnny Warman-Walking Into Mirrors (plus 2 videos)", according to the hand-written label. I know who Johnny Warman (Screaming Jets) is, but have been unable to view the video. So I'm thinking I need to run QTinstal.exe

http://home.swipnet.se/rollingstones/help4.html

[NoBoB]

QTinstal.exe (the QuickTime installer) is only needed on systems that do not have a QuickTime video playback capability. A link to a less-bloated QT player has already been posted in this thread if you haven't installed Apple's version.

newstar can't get to the data track at all, whether to run an installer or to do anything else.

[Ridgerunr]

So you have a DVD-ROM on your PC? Could be the DVD segment of NoBoB's drive is what's picking it up properly. If so,try that drive...

[shiva_42]

I'm using IsoBuster version 1.2, but I'm always using a DVD-ROM and DVD +- RW drive for these functions, not a CD drive of any kind, so I have to assume that the drive may make a difference. I don't have a CD-ROM or RW on my system any longer to be able to compare... sorry.

[robcaro]

The new free DivX player will play .mov files and more. Try it.

[newstar]

Finally a bit of success. I put the cd in my dvd drive, and am able to read a directory and open track 00. I'm using isbuster to read the disk. There exists a Qinstall & Program exe files. Also 3- .mov files and a bunch of .pic files. Also thre files with a .KW1,2,3 extension.

I get stills but no motion. Doesn't appear too terrific. Thanks all for the info...