Is there a more secure way to stop vairuses

[simpatico]

I get bugged all the time although I already have the Norton firewall installed ,
and Norton AV 2003, and both are updated ,
but now I'm thinking of some kind of hardware to use to stop this insanity,
I'm sick and tired of removing bugs from some kind of a**h**e out there that is doing this.
I use wxp pro updated, and I just recently build my fast Rig and use a internal modem for dial up.
Any suggestions...PS: someone told me that a router will do the job, and if not a router what else is out there "hardware wise"

[Fuelm@n]

May look into THIS (http://www.romtecusa.com/trios/product/super_main.htm) and see if that's what you are needing...

[K.K.S. Bisht]

Dear Simpatico,
Have you visited the product site that our friend Fuelm@n suggested and looked over the features of the product(s). Please keep us informed as all of us with a computer would like to have a solution that you're trying to strive at (or shall I call it dreaming of)! Because, my friend, supposing your dream comes true, this kind of solution, if any, would've put antivirus software industry out on the road and begging or maybe inventing ways to beat this solution.

Regards to you both and appology from Fuelm@n
kks bisht

[kv]

Depends on how much you're willing to spend... Take a look at Fortinet (http://www.fortinet.com) , they have a hardware firewall that also does virus scanning and intrusion blocking, all at hardware speed. The feature that really sets them apart is that they push out their signature updates, meaning that the product is kept up-to-date automatically, no need to download updates.

The product isn't targeted for the home market, but their lowest end model is targeted to teleworkers/SOHO users and is priced around $300, + annual subscription fee. Certainly not cheap, but if you're really concerned, might be worth a look?

Just a thought...

KV

[simpatico]

Thx guys, I'm still studying this issue for the least expensive solution.
It seems to me that there is none that will "guarantee" no intrusion,
so now, I think I'll start with a good router they are inexpensive these days, and it will provide a extra layer of protection.

[shiva_42]

simpatico:

You're simply making this too hard. If what you are after is an actual guarantee of security, it can be accomplished very quick, simply, and for free!

Unplug the modem, floppy, and CD from your motherboard, and fling them across the room as hard as you can. Sit back. Enjoy your "guaranteed" security!

:D :rolleyes:

[Jim_Six]

Hi,

If you want to get your hands dirty you could consider setting an old box up as a software firewall ... about half the cost and 5 times the hassle ;)

[simpatico]

shiva is this the best you can do? It seem to me that you are speaking from a medicated mind :D, and thx for your intelligent and informative post, I'm sure that this kind of replays help others that want to know more about questions as such, good luck...

[K.K.S. Bisht]

Dear Simpatico,
Please take it easy. Believe it or not but there is no absolute, or even anywhere near (an exception may be a few light years near) to it, solution to for your problem. Had it been so, do you think that the computer giants could not afford the gadgets suggested above from saving their servers from last 3-5 massive attacks on their servers, which do not cost a ..... (fill in the blanks, to suit your taste) of the loss they incurred.

Just, on a second thought! Dont you think Microsoft, or any OS/software manufacurer for that matter, would have provided every user of their product with the gudgets listed above free of cost, instead of spending a lot .... (fill in the blaks, to suit your taste, once again) on developing patches and getting rid of the problems for once and ever.

Regards
kks bisht

[shiva_42]

simpatico:

I was just pulling your leg... in the words of SNL: "Simmer Down Now"

[simpatico]

Hi guys this is my short cut to this problem :
First I'll buy a good 4 years old used Rig,
maybe with a 10 gig drive for $45.00 at the most, (at a Goodwill store)
format it and partition it to let's say 4 gig part,
install w2k pro update it and install NAV and NPFW and update it,
and that's it,
in other words just the essential stuff, ( 1.2 gigs of stuff at the most)
then Ghost the part one to part two,
( I won't network it)
and use this rig for browsing the web only,
so if and when I get a rig assassin\bug I'll just reghost the damn thing,
and in 20 min I'm back in action, rather then searching , cleaning and deleting assassins\Worms\viruses etc, etc, all in total this setup will cost me about $ 150.00, since I already have all the programs new in boxes just waiting to be installed.
And for this money I can include a Disk R-RW as well, this way I won't have to unplug stuff, and throw it against the wall, so as to get a guarantee for security. Cheers...:D

[Nix]

Originally posted by kv
hardware firewall that does...intrusion blocking. The feature that really sets them apart is that they push out their signature updates, meaning that the product is kept up-to-date automatically

Ok is it just me or is that an Oxymoron ?

ie they're providing great intrusion blocking amongst other things, but they 'push' out their updates, ie they intrude on to your system without your knowledge ?

[kv]

Originally posted by Nix


Ok is it just me or is that an Oxymoron ?

ie they're providing great intrusion blocking amongst other things, but they 'push' out their updates, ie they intrude on to your system without your knowledge ?

They don't touch your system, but they will update the flash on the appliance with updated signatures. This is done via an encrypted connection using PKI between their update center and the registered devices.

Like I said, this isn't really meant for home use, it's for commercial networks and branch offices/teleworks. It just means that administrators don't have to worry about downloading updates.... If a new attack or virus breaks out over a weekend, the security appliance can be automatically updated keeping the network secure before the admin even show up for work the following Monday.

Cheers,
KV

[K.K.S. Bisht]

Hi friends,
Sorry to be not with you for quite long because of my twisted ankle. Nice to be with the friends again.

Dear Kv,
I'd request you to remedy my my doubts, which I raised in my earlier post.

Regards
kks bisht