CD-R or CD Burning Problem?

[ImNotHere]

I burned a music CD and everything went just fine the first time, every song played. I went to make a second CD using one of the same songs, only this time it won't play. What could the problem be? I used the same music file and the same type of CD each time. I am using Memorex CD-R's and stop running processes before burning each time (including AV and firewall). I also stand half a mile away in order to avoid buffer underruns. I am using Windows XP Home, if that makes any difference, and Record Now burning software.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[JoJo Gunn]

I can't be of much help, since I don't run XP or Record Now. Are you trying to reuse the file from the burned CD instead of going back to the original CD again? We tend to think digital copies will be perfect 100 generations down the road, but truth is with many burning programs subtle errors can creep in. Maybe there's an error this time, just enough to give a problem. (I'm certain the RIAA doesn't want that little secret to get out. ;) )

And I've seen several complaints about Memorex on this board. Might do a search and read for yourself. Tried any other brands?

[ImNotHere]

JoJo Gunn,

Thank you so much for your answer.

I was using a file that was on my computer, it wasn't from the CD I had already burned. Funny thing is it worked the first time.

I haven't tried anything but Memorex, but I am already dissatisfied with them. When I first got the spindle of 50 CD's I tried them out and found 10 bad ones right out of the box. I wrote the company, but haven't heard back (and probably won't).

Record Now comes with HP computers, so being the cheap person I am, I decided to use it instead of buying software. I will do that now. I will also see about different CD's.

Many thanks. :D

[JoJo Gunn]

Dang. Caught me in a lie! I have Record Now. Downloaded it from HP's web site. Must have been a mistake on their part, since the link is dead now. Fooled around with it, then burned it and stashed it away. Forgot all about it. It's not "bad" software, actually. It just didn't have the features of a couple of others I use. Besides, I'd had too many programs installed at once. Had to get rid of two or three.

One of our members, Misery, has the old free Sony software that they don't have on their site anymore. It works pretty good.

http://151.199.137.57:8090/extreme.html

Feurio is also pretty good. It's a full functioning demo, which never expires, at least not as of version 1.65.

http://www.feurio.net/English/index.shtml

As far as your file being damaged, maybe it isn't since it's on the HD. Try and test another burn using a rewriteable, if you have any. Record Now and the Sony software will both write to them same as a CD-R. I can't remember for sure if Feurio will or not. Actually, I don't think Feurio wrote data at all, just music.

I'm running an HP as well. I've had good luck with Imations, TDK blacks (though some have had trouble with TDK's sourced out from Ritek-so are these, but theyve done just fine with me anyway) and Maxell "Data", the ones that Wal-Mart has 10 in a box. I use Sony, Imation, and Fuji RW's, with no problems either. I chalk it up to this Teac burner, an 8x4x32. Slow but sure. :)

EDIT-and for all my jibber-jabber I don't know if those programs will work with XP or not. But they're free.

[ImNotHere]

Thanks JoJo, you are all that and free software too. ;)

I will check out your links & I am planning on buying some new CD-R's. Thanks for the list, I know just the kind you are talking about at Wal-Mart. Funny thing is, I passed them up for Memorex because I wanted quality. I'll know better now.

Take care.

[JoJo Gunn]

I'm glad I could help out.

Hey, those Maxell's I used when I first started out. Didn't want to buy a whole spindle of something I might not could use. But the black ones came along and it's pretty much what I use all the time. Those Maxell's are almost 3 bucks more for only a cardboard box!? :eek:

[Nix]

Originally posted by ImNotHere
I also stand half a mile away in order to avoid buffer underruns.

LOL - That's too funny.

[ImNotHere]

Nix,
;)


One of our members, Misery, has the old free Sony software that they don't have on their site anymore. It works pretty good.

Does anyone know if this is compatable with XP? What kind of features does it have? Is there a site where I can read about this, or am I out of luck there since Sony doesn't have it on their site anymore? How about the name of the program so I can look it up?

Any help appreciated.

[fink]

It's called "Sony CD Extreme". I use it on win2k with no problems.

Here's sony's update page,...

http://sony.storagesupport.com/cdrw/cdextreme.htm#comp

[ilona47]

Sony Xtreme works great! I have it as my software...it came with the Sony burner..I have build 1.2.290 ...think I better checkout the site to see if there are any updates. :p
Burned a cd the other night from my WMP, tested ok by the software, it burned the .wavs, but when I tried to 'listen' to it later, didn't hear a thing...wonder what I did wrong???:confused:

Newest update is 2.0.799 :p

[mawil]

You can also download CD Extreme here. (http://www.sover.net/~whoi/MMedia.html)

[ImNotHere]

I do not have a Sony CD-RW drive, so I guess this software isn't for me.

Thanks for your answers.

I am still getting "blank songs" using the files stored on my computer. It works some times and not others and seems to be hit or miss.

I did hear back from Memorex ( :eek: ) and they said I bought the wrong speed disks even though it says it will work with UP TO 40x CD burners and mine is 16X. This could be my fault, I am not experienced enough with CD burning to say for sure.

It looks like I need to start saving for CD software and more CD-R's, I can guarantee you it won't be Memorex that I buy.

Thanks again.

[ImNotHere]

mawil,

Great link, thank you. I bookmarked it.

Am I wrong in thinking that this software will not work for me since I do not have a Sony CD-RW drive? In the link that fink posted it said I needed a Sony burner for the update, or so I thought.

Someone think for me, I am not capable.

[mawil]

I believe the PX Engine update is to include more burners. Go to this (http://www.veritas.com/us/products/recordnow/drivers/) link and scroll down to "download PX Engine". In the sentence below it, there is a link for device recognition list. See if your burner is in the list.

Glad you liked the link. Lots of good free stuff there. :)

We also had problems with the Memorex cds. Now using Maxell and Fuji.

[JoJo Gunn]

CD Xtreme works okay on my Teac. The only thing I couldn't get to work was to copy a disc to the HD as a temp file first. Always got a message the HD didn't have enough space, when I had 17 gigs or so. :confused: (Another member said he/she had the same problem). Everything else worked great.

My personal opinion is that Memorex is buck passing. But anyway, you can select burn speed. If you can get by with slower speeds, always the safe bet no matter the brand, then maybe you'll be able to use what you have left.

[Ridgerunr]

Everything you'd ever want to know about burning software and media(disks) can be found here:http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd.shtml

Click on the "CD Media World Forums" up top for a good place to learn also.

Keep in mind,just because the spindles of CD-R's you buy say Memorex,doesn't mean they are actually "made" by Memorex. Most of it is farmed out to"no-name" media Mfg's. There is a small program you can dn/load that will tell you who actually made the blank you have in the drive called CDRIdentifyer.If your interested,you can get it here: http://www.gum.de/it/download/english.htm

:)

[JoJo Gunn]

Feurio reads maker info too. And Nero has an Info Tool that does. The Info Tool is a small file, and something you don't install. Just click on it to bring it up. The latest is 1.03


http://www.cdspeed2000.com/

[ImNotHere]

Thanks again you guys.

Ridgerunr,
Thanks for the information. I joined the other forum and am learning already. I also downloaded the program you recommended and ran it, worked like a charm only it didn't say which speed the CD-R was.

That's when I downloaded the Nero program JoJo recommended and the fun began. It turns out that my system didn't like that program at all and I had my first BIG freeze in XP...and the blank CD was stuck in the drive. I can't think here of late, so I called HP and they made everything Groovy again. They also told me to avoid Memorex CD-R's like the plague.

I will be writing more hate mail to Memorex, if for no other reason than to irritate them as much as they have irritated me.

Thank you again, everyone.

<just a note> I do not blame JoJo for the Nero program not working, every system is different and mine just didn't like that program. I do not believe that JoJo would ever give bad advice. ;) </note>

[JoJo Gunn]

I got the wool pulled over one person's eyes, don't I? :eek: :D :D

[JoJo Gunn]

ilona47, I've never used WMP to make a disc. Maybe someone else will come by and help.

[ilona47]

Thanks, Jo-Jo...going to the cd media forum listed in earlier thread...got to learn this stuff ! I've only burned 6 cds for data since I had the Sony installed (2-01)...never any audio cds.
:D

[JoJo Gunn]

Ilona47, you said you used the WMP to make the music tracks, is that right? I dug out the manual on the CD Xtreme and it will use .wma files, which is what the WMP makes. That said, I don't know what your problem might be. I personally wouldn't use the WMP, because .wma files are compressed like MP3's. I'd stick with .wav files all the way, unless you're concerned about HD space or the files are for casual listening.

I always recommend CDex to pull the tracks off a CD. Use the 44100khz at 16 bit setting for a .wav file. Drag and drop or use the Add Track button to get all the tracks you want on a list. If you can, use a rewriteable for a test burn. It'll at least play back on your computer so you can see if it worked.

http://www.cdex.n3.net/

[Razor]

Just thought I would throw in my 2cents worth regarding CDR's. I have been burning now for about 3 years and I use the cheapest CDr's that I can find ; like the ones in the Sunday flyers [Staples,Office max,etc] 50 and100 discs with a rebate netting the cost to abt $10. or less for either. I have had good results with about all brands. Most mistakes have been my own. I have several burners , mostly TDK from 16x-40x. I burn at either 8x or 12x. The slower burns are are more stable and less prone to errors. I am more into MP'3 burns than .wav. A good program for .wav burns is one called Acoustica MP3 Burner. It won't burn to MP3 but will burn MP3 to .wav. A neat part is that it will search for incompletes and alert you whether you want to burn it or remove it. At the moment I am having a bit of difficulty figuring out why some burned classical music [mp3] won't play on my DVD player, but will play on my neighbors... Could use some input onput on that.....;)

[MiseryQ]

I'm gonna halt the upload of this for a few hours...
I'm getting A LOT of hits on this This week... Today expecially...

Sorry...

[JoJo Gunn]

I hear you, Misery. Thanks for the permission to link to this point.

:)

[MiseryQ]

I'll probabaly change it to it's own "site" with bandwidth and CPU limits tommorrow...

I must admit that I never actualy did anything on my end and after posting the uploads stopped...

Thanks all...